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These are your buzz cuts from Fox News first -- -- So how about this Vladimir Putin says Obama bush same difference but he's hoping that he can work something happened and Syria.
With President Obama that's -- generally how you start a negotiation with an American Democrat is to compare them to the most -- Republican president.
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And they're trying to figure out the details hopefully.
A plan to secure.
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Here's the thing John Kerry is in Geneva he's negotiating with -- -- The Russians say that they will not get us out of the -- in Syria which is to go forward with a plan to secure the chemical weapons.
In that country.
Led by the worst -- doctor ever I have to say.
But the the question is.
Everybody knows that the US -- -- strike and nothing.
Congress would was so happy to hear the president withdraw his plea for a world.
There's no way that that's happening what is John -- bargaining chip in Geneva.
And nobody knows because the thing is obviously they're gonna have to keep saying that.
The -- forces on the table that President Obama said the nation on.
To -- night that he is asked the military to maintain its current posture in order to keep pressure on side.
And so John Kerry just -- the Russians insistence that.
And so until we remove the threat of -- there's no deal has to deal has to come to the table for the deal with the threat of force that's.
That's obviously awkward timing of course of the arrival.
Support to the left to do about rebels excuse me it's -- vehicles as well delayed for months.
I'm just -- actually engaging in a deal that legitimizes.
President -- preserves his regime to do Russians and is -- really interesting.
Current four secretary Kerry to be dealing with it is just think it is clearly not our goal to in the words -- John McCain.
Change the momentum.
Of the civil war on the ground we are not actually backing the rebels we're actually.
Giving them aside some time -- you look I think it's it's it's that he says he'll do but he probably will right.
Now it seems like what's happened is that through all this beside his head more firmly gripping power than he was before all of this overall about this bombing started -- His regime and -- like.
They're all -- -- let him comment is signatory that you have to care chemical weapons convention.
Legitimizes him and it helps.
The -- it it furthers the goal of the Russians which is to keep this -- regime in power.
It doesn't it actually hinders any -- success among the rebels because it allows the jihadist elements on -- -- -- not strategists help.
Any -- meaning secular insurgents see.
It was a policy of the US to preserve still -- all along they were never gonna help you.
Now -- so about this.
I don't use the -- word.
Number it is quite.
How about this before our -- The rebels who are medium -- -- Medium rare al-Qaeda some hard yes definite in a Qaeda enthusiasts others are.
Hanging out with our attitude is as -- -- we've seen reporting from our -- Catherine Herridge and our own Jennifer Griffin whose day.
Zoo are vacillation on this is actually driven the medium al-Qaeda in too hot and heavy out this.
But this actually -- as this week will do war tried to to do that did anything in the last short arming them -- now the news today is that the CIA so we don't have boots on the unit -- thugs on the ground like -- -- -- some kind -- on the ground and were so good -- some good backpack Lozano yes.
But they're arming these guys and they're giving them the stuff as they get wilder and wall earlier and -- -- heading to a diplomatic solution.
Doesn't it kind of feel like this is out of control right now.
-- it's it's really surreal because that.
The president did try to say in his address that is ultimate goal is a political solution in which the Asad regime hands and -- -- But he said he -- we could only get there.
Once we freeze the did.
The weaponry the chemical stockpiles think dean capability and -- -- strike again with with chemicals so.
It sounds nice but he never explained how engaging.
With a -- yeah legitimizing.
Him bringing him into an international discussion.
They could last years and take tens of thousands of troops and cost untold amounts of money.
That how doing that actually.
Leads to success and it was for the rebels and an eventual political solution that ends his regime and it just doesn't make any sense.
-- it would have taken I mean if you would have said if -- -- -- here and said.
Six weeks ago even that aside could in any way survives this.
It would have been almost impossible to imagine it was a question of time.
How many of his enemies could be killed -- get -- carve out for that Alan white people's as a minority sect inside Syria and in you and I talked about -- that there was a it was.
-- idealistic but it was.
-- on clothes for a -- that this killing was part of an effort to.
It's been secure and protect his -- the -- why is there against and it was starting to have the shades of what Saddam Hussein was facing.
When you have a minority governing majority in the backlash and all that stuff.
Now it is not unthinkable that he comes out of this well.
Everyone should be perfectly clear they haven't been paying attention to this all along and only -- for the last two weeks than it did.
The Russians have been arming you know this whole other analysts say it's not an emergency -- for the Asad regime to fall is just not in their interest seven.
Anytime they say we're gonna bring them into act compliance and international norms numerous security disarm and other chemicals are -- That sounds -- -- for so it's probably not even doable but even the promise itself is probably.
It really difficult to just swallowed it given that.
Adam is isn't it it's the right it's in the interest of the Russians as as mr.
Putin has so.
I'm particularly set in New York Times today to.
To -- this rebellion.
And kill off this any insurgents and make sure president Assad keeps his job.
This is the time to let the mortar -- fine as long as American weapons and the last thing.
So -- -- op Ed in the New York Times and I felt like I'd been transported back to my child.
Where the Russians come out and they say oh America -- are you so about coach why are you doing all -- -- why are you being so mean -- love all the peoples of the world.
And why are you doing created equal as were -- created equal man except for -- -- -- these days in Russia are definitely not immediately.
But the what was -- about it was.
Now these are the same arguments that the KGB used and -- -- campaigns back in the seventies and eighties against the United States and its like they've just dusting off the playbook it's like.
-- it still works we can just go and -- He's knows exactly how to hit the President Obama or he's vulnerable and so it was a way for him to lecture the president.
To remain in in Detroit he's the driver's seat as entire share this circus sideshow that were watching he is and you start it.
I mean he won't be we'll continue -- This kind of you know.
Putting himself in the arm on the op -- -- -- -- times with such a lecturer is is really quite canny I think that.
He'll continue to stay in the spotlight indeed indeed the star of the show and his.
His ability to kind of as you point out appeal to all our differences factions and are different.
You know persuasions people who are reflexively sort of anti war vs those who might have been invited supported these strengths.
-- we're afraid there is no end game and he's really these conquering because we're divided.
And that's that and that's anyway -- -- we've seen a -- we might see the last hour that we haven't seen the last assists.
Do you theatrics.
Shirtless theatrics soon to write an excellent will be played -- all right.
It was gonna say I'm sorry I said that but I think.
I'm not even I'm definitely not sorry that he started was here because we're smarter thing and about 70% class here.
Don't -- undo will undo all of that.
In the very near term and he's gonna thank you think your generosity.
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-- it's getting very quickly in -- it's gotten uglier in congress right now you had a plan put forward by house leadership.
That said is.
Well maybe we could pass true continuing resolutions and then see which one the senate picks would that be -- -- crews and they were like no.
That's a bait and switch and it doesn't work today Mitch McConnell and the senate is floating another traveler when a form of an amendment to a piece of legislation.
That would delay -- The individual mandate and memorialize the delay for the big business mandate that the president already did by fiat.
Can somebody come up with a plan and Republicans can back to avoid -- government shutdown and.
Yes yes I think it is the house plan the reports that its of its demise are pretty premature.
To house having worked in house leadership I can tell you that.
Did the process tends to take time in the house members attended the need to get comfortable with -- and I think they will eventually go with it because of three things one.
Effusive but you see the surprise that I had this -- that you see every time.
Then they get a plan through it takes time though I don't know well I can -- I didn't.
It -- funds obamacare to it includes data isn't.
Don't they voted us why why would they did it that way way to a let me do this I'll guess I would this and why would this and it takes that out.
Dissent will be forced to vote on Obama care and before Sony defund it which is the one vote.
Think Harry Reid doesn't want vulnerable members like Kay Hagan Mark Prior to take.
And that's why is it politically works for the house they're able to preserve this Questar cuts they're able to stop the government shutdown.
It's a trifecta what they need and the reality is -- know the house knows that they have a lot more leverage in their debt ceiling -- anyone get any help.
Oh yeah I don't think.
I think the key phrase that he didn't just -- was that this is the political win.
And that's exactly what they're trying to do right now -- the house is consistent that he sent over.
I don't think so it's consistently sent over just these forty times you know to defund obamacare but you can look around there's -- Like it to the Internet -- that you understand you guys both understand -- this portrait senior positions on.
So that with the -- plan is.
Past two separate bills each one else is one bell but its got an escape act she's got it's like gay unions -- -- got a flat.
And you pass one bill and then it's up to the senate to choose which one which version is -- choose your own adventure for Harry Reid be forces dissent.
To take it very difficult vote for vulnerable members of Iraq in 2014.
Guys we've seen this.
As they're not forced -- thought OK so but how would that procedurally how does this work -- before we get to race here practicality is.
Procedurally -- -- passes what what does this trigger why does the senate -- -- -- Well -- what they're trying to do is force it down so that there on the September 30 deadline.
And what they're trying to say is look unless you do acting we're giving you something we're giving you this great thing we have acted responsibly and have this piece of legislation now.
Won't -- but the big -- -- vote on the legislation in the senate will effectively be recorded as a yea vote re -- their funding for the president's well yes.
Mark Pryor wanna vote want to take a vote on defining yeah McCain you get the Republican the Republican Study Committee get on board with that.
I can't hit it but again this is you know they they see this about a different Obama care and not wanting to prevent indeed responsible the fact -- -- -- is.
Over 90% of this is is not in appropriated funding as far as obamacare is concerned that the funding -- this is simply eight.
A battle to put up thirty saying -- -- they're being has made the best argument for this so far.
Which is that it would be punitive to.
It's ordinaries it's worth it -- that somehow -- -- -- anti scratch and conservative politics and it's -- and slow it was thirty soup cans and -- King yeah I mean that is at least some I think.
You know so they use a different route -- it is you know eight and you -- -- -- -- That's possible old now we're -- Me every now it is completely here is I'm really glad to -- you -- -- is it will be beat eating it has no chance passes -- -- -- -- -- if you're right.
Senate democratic candidate right now would you want them to have to take a vote on these -- -- obamacare.
Was so let's let's let's short circuit this.
I think the latest on that please sit down and negotiate to have a funding for the government yes and a half and half that.
I will stipulate this power play we'll take an official position.
That Washington is a cynical failed place.
Congress does not at its duties we will stipulate.
Are there any good governance would be much better and then what ever were calling us and when even a serial war vote.
Becomes a political football when David Axelrod goes time.
-- Twitter and goes out there and says other programs to be like -- dog that caught the car -- they have to vote on six.
It has to the -- in in Georgia -- put his ad out there.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And does offer at least something here for conservative house members say accidentally punitive place I.
I agreement on a purely.
Political stance completely irresponsible it is best for the American public yes.
That is a good vote for them to Oprah so there's -- avoiding a government shutdown is actually a good place for.
So let me -- let's let's move let's move out of the and you wouldn't share I think you know I share your limitations.
But let's move to.
The leadership of both houses have.
Not agreed on any thing in a long time until they agree.
To authorize president here bill back to -- McConnell -- McConnell day snappy.
They strategic -- and yeah.
After a period of time once he saw her but.
But certainly for Pelosi and Boehner and Reid.
This had to be certain clarifying moment about the window attitude of the president that if the president's not going to be run on the show.
Then they're gonna have to get together to do stuff does that actually any increase the chances.
Of deals even just short term stopgap deals to get through the next mid term.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- all -- have unique powers in the -- you know Pelosi and Boehner has consistently had trouble getting the majority of the majority.
-- -- having to put forth more caucus members and she's -- able to negotiate things O'Connell is.
One of the greatest negotiators that there is and he always holds his cards close the essence of -- -- and think he can get bigger and what he needs to be so he always has that power base as well.
The each have all four of them -- a unique power base in the old know that they need each other to get anything passed and sent the leadership of the president and you've seen on Syria.
That was it was real test and I don't think it really strong showing by his part pond and kind of where he's -- is so they do to your handling all organ.
Disseminated -- but I want your answer -- -- my -- -- it is called the congressional to step.
No budget no -- remember that one.
Conservatives across the country are skeptical of things that sound like.
Look what -- Ted -- college procedural chicanery.
-- -- And I passed a plan to defund Obama -- second.
The police work conservatives have leverage in the next three months is on the debt ceiling they need to tactically get through to -- our fight to be able to get to the debt ceiling to actually get changes to -- -- Get cuts today federal spending.
We'll call it the -- -- -- the Hemingway approach -- legislation survive and advance right OK guys thank you for surviving and advancing through the segment you just made us smarter.
More patriotic thank you very much.
But I've chosen your limitation right.
Exactly okay Internet when we come back one of the smartest minds working on the conundrum of Syria.
Wally fares will be here we'll talk to him when we come back system right.
And that was an interview not so super bad.
I'm sorry I'm so glad it's all very -- -- general interest.
Who is one of the rebel leaders.
That John Carey President Obama and others are.
Saying that they kind of want to help but not officially.
In Syria in an interview with our friend Martha MacCallum last week.
It ended abruptly when the questioning turned to presence of al-Qaeda in the ranks of the Syrian rebels.
This power -- so what to do who are today and how do you sort out a problem like Syria.
Somebody who knows plans and is aware in a way that very few people are in America today Wally Ferris.
He isn't that a professor yes he is and author yes.
And he is also our Middle East and terrorism experts here if you are successful I want it high could think -- economy today okay we're running short on time -- give us the quick loss.
Are them are there are enough trustworthy rebels left to try to help.
We actually have not began.
To connect with those -- submit would be the foundation for the -- just mentioned the interview with the general -- and with the others.
The problem with -- with these important figures is that they have under their wing.
And -- -- Islamist militias they may not like them but -- funded these generals are funded on the ground that they will have those forces under the my suggestion there's not.
Is that we begin very modestly in the northeast and via Syria has -- -- -- who are the majority of the current state courts have been this urgency that's right of course just -- floor million Curtis -- Kurdistan -- Syria.
Most of Syria's oil and by the way is there a solution for those kinds but more important than that of the cars are there Christians one point two million Christian -- we have been talking about the persecution of Christians here -- -- -- don't.
And some Arab settlers as well.
This is where you would begin.
You could trust and they have a banner and then.
That's how you -- the opposition anybody from the opposition which is not.
-- -- Make your way over here -- -- -- hey wanna raise the flag and then see who gathers to exactly the the theory now in Washington is there you go and show the entire rebel force Bryant was gonna get the most out of the money right there these young man gets the -- jihadist -- strongman.
Or just a limited strike guys we are thinking about it okay if if asset as we can who's gonna come to more organized the Islamist and jihadist.
Yeah we saw that in Libya we're seeing it now plans to very disastrous result and Libya.
And certainly in Egypt as we watch the brotherhood trying to keep -- consolidate its power and ends and stumble.
But it would seem out of Haiti -- and I -- talking about this we -- sets it straight weeks ago is it possible that aside in the -- this will survive.
In Syria we would've said no but it seems like this stumble.
Over the last several weeks about the US use of force.
Has invited the Russians in to reassert their role as the protector.
But not only of the Asad regime but also -- -- for you history -- mosque that was the third -- Protector of the faith unless they have come in and taken the position of defenders of the Christians and Syria.
Russia is facing -- have to understand why is -- -- and that's they're facing at home jihadist intentions.
So in the Middle East to face off with the issue hottest -- say we are preventing the minorities and questions.
I wish we had more time to do it but I hope you'll come back soon smarter every time.
We will be happy thank you so much and thank you very much OK now look -- make Jonathan Hunt is at the -- Dina tallies in.
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Bad news Charles was not on the panel last night he did so much earlier in the week that I think got doctor -- deserved night off but we thought we try something different and tell us what you think.
On Twitter at -- -- -- Because we're gonna try just -- when Charles is off what about a substitute when we have Miller time would you like to hear from Dennis Miller.
We -- gonna so get ready to have a great day we'll see you back here tomorrow.
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