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Only comes -- -- alleging hi who is that with the FCC he is a commissioner for appointed.
By a Barack Obama and actually is a -- also the only Republican on the commission is that -- and -- element in -- by the fact that President Obama.
Reached way across -- -- you.
That's -- you know I've never interviewed an FCC commissioner before and -- a nervous did you guys -- control everything.
That's what I've actually little nervous that having watched you many times over the years is beyond me.
So we can we can then intensely each other's nervousness out.
You know about it like -- I think if you do an F bomb that we're on delay so if you -- he do an F bomb commissioner.
But if he gets on the I'm -- -- -- -- let me and the Janet -- not here to take a couple -- now let me ask you about.
AM radio dislike you I grew up listening to am radio -- on a lot of AM radio -- so when I read what you were doing it was with great fascination.
Because of your love of the medium and I'd like to get get your thoughts on what what you'd like to -- Oprah I want to thank you for having me on the show it's one of the things that's been most gratifying about the initiative that proposed last -- -- -- Incidents been hearing from so many different AM radio broadcasters and fans from across the country including you who have weighed in saying exactly the same thing that I have that the they have warm memories of -- radio from.
The time when their kids.
You wonder what happened to the band and I -- some sometimes wonder that myself and now that amendment positions where.
If he he has the jurisdiction over the radio broadcasting airwaves.
I think -- which -- didn't think about it AM radio authorship -- gunned down substantially over the years especially among the young.
And I think part of the fact they're part of the reason why is that it's very difficult to get equality and signal.
Especially when compared to FM satellite radio and good news to the Internet and and so.
I want to think I proposed is for the FCC to review its rules regarding ham radio.
Which it hasn't done for over twenty years and -- to try to figure out if they're different.
Rules that we can tweak -- -- -- -- altogether capital LAM radio broadcasters to do what they do best which is to reach listeners wherever they might be.
Why do you think there has been anything done for 22 years because the medium and and the whole nature of the medium and the various platforms competing with a medium have changed dramatically why no action on the FCC is part.
That's a great question that I if you -- you have the broadcasters out there what they'll tell you is that and it's a little bit neglected in favor of some of the affects your newer technology -- You know nowadays says country you know every one that seems to be carrying around himself owner mark toner tablets are some of the kind of mobile device -- -- you have these new technologies have a proliferated.
They amber radio in particular -- A -- a little bit and in terms of the attention he gets from a consumer it and near -- regulators but.
Nearby have anything to say about it that's going to change I'm visible to anybody about a new technologies -- -- techie myself yeah but you know there's a place for AM radio across the country whether it's the entering public safety emergencies -- After baseball games than that work for music or talk and so.
But -- -- seems like her music on that mostly music has moved and other platforms but one of the ideas you have received would be.
Introducing NHD 2 AM when wouldn't that help bring more music back to the -- -- I I think you would be tremendously blood demonstration in my office a few months ago and I've got to tell you when they played it a -- -- looking -- an FM signal its nuclear and Chris didn't have any of that pinning their discretion if that we traditionally this it was AM signals and so.
I hope that HD radio is one of the possible solutions to the problem.
It's not just -- what technologies we can bring to the band but the fact that.
You've got so much more competition though it's not just FM radio but Winston with satellite radio with the Internet in red -- -- -- coming medium.
So it given the fact give somebody different platforms and apps.
Canadian radio ever retain its former glory.
That's the basic question that they think you know -- -- Republican I think the market is going to have to -- but my goal.
A regulatory perspective -- to you modernized some of the rules that.
Until treating -- radio -- it was rescued 203040 years ago sort of unshackled broadcasters as it were and let them.
Make improvements to their facilities let them you make better pitches to advertisers.
Ultimately could provide better contents where and when listeners want it and that's.
If they're able to compete on a level playing field and I think you know I hope that -- radio broadcaster -- right.
I was fortunate Mike Green to work for some of the great AM stations there worked for WNBC WABC in New York I work for the BBD.
Big station in New York City and those stations though are no longer worked with they once -- because of the competition AM radio is considered a depressed area and and owners can't get that kind of money -- to get to I mean.
As you get on the Internet you get every international reached.
And even though you make the grade point and AM radio has much broader reached an FM and many other platforms.
You don't need to have that -- in order to be heard anymore.
Exactly that the major problem and that that actually pilots one of the proposals like me which -- -- -- relax some of the restrictions we have on the ability of people to invest in AM and FM frankly radio.
A broadcast stations so you're right now for example the FCC will allow a foreign company to invest and literally billions of dollars in the major.
American wireless carrier -- can't even invest a few thousand dollars and and AM broadcaster.
I think it would have a greater than 25% stake into the foreign investors but that's one of the rule that I hope would we we would relax in order to boost the value they -- We're talking -- -- commissioner the FCC.
For example my boss Rupert Murdoch never bought radio stations but he's gotten.
He's had issues in the past where you know he's one -- newspapers and TV and rules wouldn't -- -- -- all that in different markets.
-- in you with your -- -- -- guess he would be or any other entrepreneur or be allowed to -- as many stations as they want.
Absolutely and I think you know you well when the proposals I made it to relax some of our rules to allow.
What we call cross ownership to try and one of the issues that I've found especially for smaller markets and clearly the big cities like new Yorker LA but especially smaller markets likely to peak.
-- you have all of these newspapers they're struggling.
But defines revenue stream and you have all these radio station -- during the same thing and because of some of our rules of the FCC.
That you can collaborate can't be cross and in order to maximize.
The ability to distribute political content they provide over the head over -- different.
-- getting semi agreement with your views among the Democrats -- the FCC.
Well you know it's -- contentious issue to be sure but they think by and large people agree that.
Especially some -- the smaller markets something needs to be done I mean I got you don't need me to tell you the newspapers -- Really struggling right now and that he pointed out earlier -- radio stations are struggling to use so.
I'm worried that if we don't reform something's soon give both -- into the equation.
Our ownership limits are ridiculously given the nature of the media at this point let me ask you about the Fairness Doctrine on one with -- -- liberals who's against the Fairness Doctrine because.
I don't want the shoe on the other foot then they say when they got to put my X number of conservatives on I don't think the FCC should be involved in content at all.
I can agree with you more -- and I think that one of the things that -- -- a lot of fear -- And people on -- Clinton -- island the notion that the government would try to decide knew what kind of contents.
A qualified for inspection by a bit of who you regulators -- what kind of content would fly and that's not a position and I think the government should be in.
But for constitutional and frankly just.
There's no effort to bring back the Fairness Doctrine is -- they have season.
No I mean I think that the doctrine instead of the tornado before I got there in the -- 2012 is removed from the books and I don't see any.
-- -- from either side of the I'll have to resurrect that.
But to have maybe just didn't diversity and ownership would be a way to go.
Correct -- -- -- that's one theory is that we're looking at that -- two diversified ownership and especially don't -- AM radio.
I -- -- a gateway for minorities in particular Q.
Have ownership of broadcast facilities and I think it's going to be important -- -- to think of different ways to spur that.
A commissioner thank you so much a two to accepting our invitation to come on pleasure talk to you and they get your -- and all this thanks so much for talking Orson.
Think drag me and I -- a couple of.
I'm not thank you some -- -- -- -- commissioner at the FCC.
The only Republican there but make some big plays and Republican appointed by Barack Obama.
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