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Former senior director for middle east affairs at the National Security Council he is currently managing director of the Washington institute Michael always good to see you thank you.
It is interest.
You know when secretary Kerry says things like we are working hard to find common ground that really is code for we can't agree on anything.
Amy had how do you feel these talks are going so far.
Guiding these talks face very serious -- -- -- -- the first days.
They're very different positions an interest of US the US and Russia that are involved here.
Russia obviously is trying to preserve an ally in -- -- side.
And is also trying to sort of prevent the United States from becoming involved militarily or sort of gaining.
Through military means in this particular region.
The USI it's not always clear exactly what we're trying to do here the president talks about a negotiated outcome.
-- but of course we've talked in the past about Assad must go we talk about enforcing international norms.
So so that's that's a big gap but then frankly Trace also this idea of locating verifying -- destroying chemical weapons amid a civil war.
You know trusting but -- loss -- -- just impractical.
And you know you -- read through the language here Michael and you know John Kerry says we want this done in a timely fashion and and only any I -- what's timely.
It's -- weeks is it months -- years when they say they want this done and timely fashion.
We just had -- coming out saying OK in thirty days we'll give you information about the chemical weapons but not exactly the weapons and that's really the way it's done it seems like.
There's a little but a stalling going on here.
Well there's a lot of stalling going on hearing and even with full cooperation from the outside regime.
Which you know -- -- -- track record does not suggest he's going to offer.
This would take probably years to accomplish.
If the if you sort of use examples of similar efforts in the pass in places like Libya.
Because you've got to first get his declaration -- you've got to go verify things I you've gotta you gotta check other sites to see if he's telling the truth.
You've got to get those inspectors on the ground they've got to do the very kind of dangerous laborious process of destroying the chemical weapons.
It's a -- stands in the stands I would say into pretty long time period so.
You're talking about the near term deadlines only those deadlines are really only for senator sort of agreeing on a framework -- most.
And what happened this -- emergency Michael mean it was it was Sergio urge you heard yet last week and now we're talking about Laramie allowed rubble median New York name on the 28 did that goes well -- have some other meeting -- -- what's gonna happen in round two that didn't happen during round one.
But I think you make a great point I mean you know the peace you know having a negotiated peace is not just about holding a conference you know it's not just about talking.
Both sides have to believe that a negotiated outcome is better than whatever they can achieve militarily -- -- militarily or whatever they can achieve without having to compromise.
And right now the Syrian opposition frankly is unlikely even willing to attend such a peace conference would -- lot side across the table.
And -- -- -- us out I don't know why you would think at this stage you have to compromise with the threat of US military force essentially no longer credible.
And with the Russians appearing to have sort of -- diplomatically.
Whatever president bombing have been trying to do was so.
You have to create the conditions were both outside and the opposition feel the need to compromise.
Yeah he wanted to buy some time it looks like he got it Michelson.
Always good to see Michael thank you thank you --
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