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Are we so focused on what's happening in Syria that we're taking our eyes off for the serious stuff here at home like the fact that the number of US households receiving food stamps just it.
Another record high.
In this comes despite an unemployment rate that keeps falling something the administration uses to say things are getting better wolf that's a case shouldn't fewer people need food stamps -- -- reason why so many here is making the case we're becoming a nation too dependent on government.
Hi everybody I'm David has been bucket of -- on FOX let's go focus would have a Rick younger -- Karl Garnett was about mcdonalds or British paper and build ball -- got a full house here today rich.
We all be coming as a nation to depended on welfare.
Yeah and this is a national tragedy for blue collar employees is just absolutely horrible.
And I think their core problem is that we have a tax and regulatory structure.
That -- -- employers that hire blue collar -- to take an example.
In California the largest employer in California.
It -- tax it gets taxed city federal and state combined rate of almost 44%.
Meanwhile about thirty miles away in Silicon Valley Google and apple which have very few blue collar laborers Google.
Is tax at about 10% combined federal and state raid and apple about fifteen.
So there's this huge disparity right now that's.
It's great if you're white collar skilled labor in this economy just horrible if -- blue collar labor labor and I don't think the federal government realizes how it's punishing.
These kinds of companies.
Rick and the fact is we're just before we started this this program you and I were talking about how would you -- we were poor at one point in our career we never would have thought about going on food stamp for any kind of welfare.
We know middle class kids are doing well but I think you had the he answered to really answer this question lies in the question that was asked.
Yes more people are going back to work and yes the food stamps -- an all time -- what does that mean there's something wrong with that earlier it gives you the answer to the question and that is people are going back to work in jobs.
That do not pay them enough money and so they continue to qualify for instance those kids somebody's laughing out there but I got to -- a -- -- a guy that's working forty hours a week.
And is not making enough money to support -- daily needs food stamps I don't find anything even.
That I'm already active practice is that people like Rick and I and I use to issue any idea of government assistance even when we were make it.
Far below the qualifying about that you need to now get into some kind of welfare program.
I know -- nice to talk about how we use to do that S and H green stands right on Saturday -- and half out of NM mothers my name is -- I I do worry I think the port wanna job I don't want welfare I think government job and that's -- brought it right and the problem is the US economy is still in the protective custody of the Obama administration.
They have -- did the exact wrong thing at the worst time meaning the recession of this in the unit in the US.
And that is an act two gigantic new bureaucracies that are basically.
Putting a lot on top of companies meaning health care.
And also financial services -- prominent a bunch of other reform.
So the problem also to David is still the stigma those kind of getting lost on you that's true stance and that's kinda scary and -- -- and John -- -- Hoping -- Mac is right there that people still would prefer job but -- here's a question by the way I just filled out a form this morning.
From the benefit department of New York's New York City government and I said I was a single guy making ten bucks an hour you know which is essentially what we -- out.
Am I eligible for anything I got this whole long list of what I'm eligible for in terms of welfare -- I'm wondering whether we're reaching the point where it makes more sense not to work -- just rely on government welfare.
I don't think so I'm still very much an optimist I look at the Reagan years I look at the Clinton years and what it tells me is that Americans love prosperity and I'm much happier when they're working when they have opportunities.
I think what these time show us is that government is very expert at wrecking an economy.
For spending increases over taxing us over regulating us through things like obamacare that make -- possible higher.
Dollar valuation they know how to create poverty which puts people on the margin.
On the government dole but these people are not happy they were much happier when the economy is growing in the Reagan and Clinton years.
But bill the fact is is that even as unemployment begins to go down -- know what's going down because a lot of people are pulling out of labor force that's no good.
But the Obama administration is taking credit for -- saying this is because things are getting better -- -- so -- are more people aren't on those things.
Well there's no question the Obama economy has create a great growth.
In the number of people collecting a disability food stamps and unemployment for more than a year.
-- the dilemma is how to be compassionate without warping incentives and I think there's an answer.
I think that prosperous people like everybody on this set.
Should be dipping into their pockets look deeper animal welfare a lot allotments should be actually greater however why I think what however.
I think the work requirements for all of these programs to be much.
Greater and right now the Obama administration is moving in the other direction they're trying to -- work requirements so it is a little too easy not well certainly I had to bill's point there are states that are trying to do that effect in Ohio governor bill case -- our John Kasich an Ohio has actually said that people need to start able bodied people that are now receiving food -- single people.
Need to work -- those food stamps do you think on a state level anyway that.
-- gain some traction.
I absolutely -- and this is why since 2007.
The supplemental nutrition assistance program -- snap has tripled in size we now spend seventy billion dollars a year.
Helping support more than 47 million Americans that's one out of every seven Americans beyond -- stance that the very bleak picture.
And a larger question is -- suggested -- how do we help these people how do we make sure that Americans have the basics in terms of food and shelter and clothing.
And I think as government -- -- and makes us a country dependent people.
I'm crowds -- civic society crowd that churches and synagogues and schools and neighborhoods who traditionally are much better equipped to help those in their communities who are in need and.
And -- the fact is the bigger the welfare system becomes a bigger -- The food stamp rolls become the more fraud there is a fraud is just -- up about 30% and the food's food stamp program.
Yeah I it becomes a self perpetuating monster but I would go back to the root problem here where are.
High paying blue collar jobs that are missing in this economy.
You find in an energy production that you find them in transportation and shipping you find -- in manufacturing.
I'm not saying these industry should be subsidized I'm saying they should be -- shackled.
So they've you know under under the same regulatory umbrella and tax structure the companies like Google and apple and Wall Street is.
These companies that provide the blue collar jobs are the most taxed and regulated industries.
In the United States is it any wonder the jobs have disappeared -- -- It -- the fact this is sticking up close stance for second when we talk about the expanding roles were also talking about expanding fraud we just had a case in Arizona by the way where people were using.
Your food stamp cards is sort of like a credit her for trips to Hawaii.
It's been happening for -- look.
I imagine waking up now it is I'm with you all all the way when it comes to -- I wish we would spend as much time debating how to and the fraud.
As we've seen Hispano what I think is a false arguably did during the Clinton -- was -- I was totally reformed welfare -- a result of it this president won't reach to the Republican let it clear it may have more to do with the timing let people again people are going -- you know.
Like people are going back to work they're not being paid enough money just to survive without it.
You -- may not be -- Yeah I you know we make if this is an agent and -- -- to say it Rick Colbert has it dead on and that is that we have this flat tire of the US economy.
Where the US government is soaring banana -- in the form of more rules and Barbara are taxes at these company's -- -- jobs.
And most of what's the problem is David the extraordinary is no ordinary and that is -- use of government welfare we wanna help the poor get him a job.
Yup yup and I think we'd all agree that we are better community a better country when folks don't want to take -- -- -- that's.
That's the problem is this spirit of America I think is being destroyed.
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