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And welcome to FOX News Sunday panel plus with Brit Hume Jane Harman Bill Kristol and Charles -- Let's look at the Syria crisis and how it's unfolding winners and losers we're going to start as well I think -- -- Obvious winners Bashar Assad all of this presupposes that he continues in -- a person who will be dealing with the world will be dealing.
Is presently have -- in trying to get -- chemical weapons.
He doesn't have to worry about them and airstrike.
And believe me the air strike would not -- -- -- -- the weapons themselves movement aimed at his military infrastructure.
Which could have but as a by product change seat belts of power in that war in favor of the rebels.
The rebels meanwhile other big losers.
They'd hoped that this would happen.
It's not gonna happen again and and that hurts them.
For now it's not gonna happen I think.
-- eliminating the chemical weapons is a daunting project it will take a long time.
Patent forcing -- charter reveal where they are in the next week just two things one on one test him but number two it -- him from using them again I don't think he'll be a little user again.
I wouldn't say he's a loser I'd like -- to be real looser and not be in power there but I think that could be step two and hopefully it doesn't get aired on this program before it happens I'd love to read -- bet I'd love to hear about it after.
He is left for -- -- would pick a place and a transitional government has been installed like Yemen look at least.
Ask you this question you said for now in terms of military.
If he drags this out for years.
Will there be any appetite to go back -- -- -- yourself.
-- I think the UN report comes out tomorrow.
It won't say who was responsible for delivering weapons however.
The US intelligence which I have seen is rock solid there's no chance the rebels mounted this attack and that will sink in.
Over time if the shark dragged his feet and prudent dragged his feet.
There will build a consensus which we don't have now for action here in the US has those ships ready to act and I think Obama lack.
And wished they were right but I am doubtful about that -- -- that's gonna happen in the near future actually.
And the UN general assembly meets and -- the week after this coming week I present Obama's speech Tuesday morning the new president of Iran and honey speaks Tuesday afternoon.
There's a negotiation then the working group on Iran I think that Thursday in New York I predict we will see a big charm offensive -- -- with -- in the middle of it.
I think the president has said today -- And on another network that he was open to diplomatic talks.
I think we're not gonna go down we'll have to diplomatic we're going to Syria the diplomatic program -- with -- -- serial -- chemical weapons are probably developing its nuclear weapons.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a little bit of relaxation of sanctions even as the price for this.
These talks I'm very worried about the present that the president -- here.
Well -- let's go back to our winners and losers on I think the winner.
Usher also is certainly one of the big winner to me is slugger who.
You know he's a judo expert and he has six sort of -- skillfully leverage the attack of -- opponent and use that force against them to create a key role for himself in a region where Russian influence have been on the -- for decades.
Now he is a key player in the middle of that and his image globally is gonna be sanitized accordingly that's want the loser I'm afraid.
Is the whole US position in the Middle East mainly because there's been such it.
Large vivid loud demonstration of -- lack of unity as between the president and the congress within the congress and indeed within our party's.
As to you know how how engaged one in the war.
I'd like to give a shout out to John Kerry who I think he's been magnificent secretary of state and Keri sees a way forward here.
And -- could at the end of this not all at one time be a grand bargain I don't agree with bill.
Now Iran is gonna get worse than necessarily I think talking to Iran is just fine in terms of began building a consensus about what needs to be done.
I think Obama who was poised to act initially we had this discussion.
A little earlier.
Pull back because there was no support for that.
Support is now building it seems to me first for acting in Syria if if this doesn't work in a short term.
And I think support is building to.
For acting in Iran -- if if we don't see clear signal.
Support is building in congress for a strike if this doesn't work on killer.
Or whatever -- -- -- there was this is leaking -- congress is part of the world and I think and I would also say that commitment for Iran announcing any.
Building consensus for the use of force -- with Cisco -- he -- I went for acting -- good things happen well let me just another possibility here.
And that is we have practiced in this country for a long time ago a friend of diplomacy which in which your negotiations are back.
By the possible use of force.
That's been what we've done it that's been the -- leverage.
Even in this instance with the presidential obviously has it and the congress so obviously unwilling and -- UN having taken power.
This possible use of force -- didn't have an effect.
Now wonder if that idea now is revived because you're hearing it out of the mouths of Democrats -- -- -- to let -- talk about it.
That's that's an interesting sidelight of this whole.
Come to the table chemical weapons that there was a very interesting op Ed piece this week talking about a post American world that the -- of the world is gone that.
If -- waffling White House that's going in a number of different directions trying to find its footing on this.
You've got Britain bailing on its closest allies NATO stands back and says it's not our job.
The UN is completely -- are we looking at a post American air here.
I hope not I'm not for a post American air that era but I think that the consensus we have traditionally had on foreign policy in this country.
Has disintegrate and we have to build something in its place and it doesn't matter what congress thinks it does matter with the people of the country think.
And in in -- kind of very messy way I think we're embarked on that and I think if this comes out well -- -- I am not cynical about this I'm actually bullish and I agree with John Kerry about being -- I'm also bullish about the peace process by the way most people aren't.
But I think if some other stuff starts to happen in the right way we will build something that's better and America will still be the only superpower.
That bill -- thought I was I was talking offline with Chris van Holland about this through when you've got a foreign policy.
It turns on the off chance that -- correspondent asks the secretary of state -- particular question at a press conference.
What does that say about your foreign policy.
President Obama actually says that you could discuss this on the fringes of the huge -- with President Putin and nobody brought -- up.
Well they bring it up publicly but I suspect food and saw his chance weather periods and ask the question -- maybe that helped the question.
Saw his chance to help bail out a president who didn't want to use force and was losing -- support.
On Capitol Hill I do think is a serious matter.
When the last and it's been very -- I agree with -- on this and -- very bad for the country amid diminished American can't talk to a foreign diplomat who doesn't think -- You first the president -- the use of force that is then they'll make -- -- we tiny tiny its moral imperative -- must Rossi just trying to use of force meanwhile congress is going south the president's outreach to congress pathetic -- people -- Democrats.
I would have gone down the senate not just the house.
And many -- comes and -- -- this deal which.
That doesn't have any threat of force behind it is bad for the US position in the Middle East and in the world and I think that's really -- dangerous thing we'll process.
Matters I understand the main thing -- result but it does matter how you get there because.
All the countries in the world want to be able to rely on the statements that the United States -- from one moment to the next.
I think this episode has -- a lot of concern not just among the Syrian rebels who thought that they're probably wondering are we gonna get our weapons the United States.
It's -- a lot of concern in Jordan Saudi Arabia cover countries that have.
Historically been on our team so to speak in the Middle East and -- start thinking yeah okay we got through this episode unscathed relatively.
What's gonna happen the next time are we going to be not so lucky and nobody will ask that question at the press conference and so forth and so on and and that's why I think that.
We've we've paid a price it we may come out net benefit for now but we've we've paid a price.
Well the process -- changed.
And I don't think it can be a top down process in this country anymore it certainly is no longer a top down process in the Middle East.
The the Arab Spring for the five minutes -- -- was a bottom up process with a bunch of folks being absolutely outraged.
At the -- at the kind of government they had their lack of opportunity rebels so I I think we have to rethink and we'll have to put up with some -- I think it's interesting and this whole panel I think shares shares the same goal which is refreshing and happy to be -- panel and happy to be on the show thank you very much.
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