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Good morning welcome back to political insiders on -- -- -- here in New York with Doug shown.
Pat canal we are the political insiders proud to have.
Try every week to -- you on -- straight political analysis those spending of talking points no B yes.
I think we do pretty good I think we do to John that that -- so I agree.
Do you agree -- yeah.
-- you're not known for.
-- so I would expect you to -- man David Axelrod called.
The most dangerous man in American politics and before we turn to Larry Summers let me just offer a brief soliloquy.
I'm David -- David.
-- would be in chief strategist.
For Obama's first and I dare say.
The second campaign.
And was the principal architect.
Of the political strategy which will be alike -- -- just like there.
And work well and almost.
And -- some election.
-- for something that is frankly.
And I would dare say logical -- a presidential campaign which is a commission.
Small commission on the media -- Because don't the economics of the woods explained what I was media bought a cut in any campaign that there're a number of functions -- press.
There -- media production.
There's press secretaries and polling and strategy.
The media and strategy function -- grouped together sometimes they're separated.
But when their group together the person was the strategist and media consultant has a substantial or maybe sometimes less substantial.
Portion of ten to 15%.
Media commission on the gross amount of time purchase.
In a presidential campaign particularly billion dollar plus campaign.
There is a very large amount of media -- -- hence the gross level of the commission is smaller.
But because there are lots of people involved typically it is divvied up widely.
One of the things that is conventional.
Is that the -- -- lead strategist in this case Axelrod prior campaigns mr.
A part of that commission.
The president was quoted in Richard Wolfe's new book.
On the 2012 campaign is saying let Axelrod of the others make their money on their books.
Basically doesn't deserve.
Or shouldn't get.
And my reaction to that speaking as a political professional.
Is like or dislike the strategy like or dislike Axelrod.
The idea that the president.
Was willing to turn financially -- a guy who mortgaged his entire life and career and went to Washington.
Reducing his earning power its stance.
And not want to compensate -- him.
Fairly and knowing David haven't worked -- them is certainly a fair and reasonable man financially if nothing else.
Said to me that really the president can be.
In any way that is sad.
About money in a way that is hardly arguably deleterious.
To his interest.
What you -- what.
And all there's I didn't want to -- -- recovery mode and I'll just say and -- But.
-- I guess we're -- here you have I ordered a bit not sorry I I would say you know this is you've which you don't understand is the the president's position on this is too big to bask in his son.
Really you know it should be I'll -- right.
So I don't know I gives up years of earnings and our friend and really -- nobody wants something they have moved from Chicago.
And really policy yourself out for where's the loyalty back towards them well that's the thing is looking dare I -- very whenever.
And -- -- points -- the epilepsy of his daughter -- right here factor in his wife yes probably needs more money I mean you know.
I would tell you I when I was in that situation having -- as well I never.
-- went on to a White House staff has never asked do and certainly never saw that always stay in the private sector and was certainly in my terms.
By President Clinton and his reelection committee and there was a sense that if you made this sort of undertaking.
You should if not get rich.
Be in a position that you.
-- the level of compensation.
Commensurate with the effort at a very significant effort that was involved.
By the headline -- more from this topic for second is to name one of the first rules I learn about politics is.
Always be loyal to those who were loyal to you.
It pays dividends -- -- axle rod was loyal to Obama and Obama in a way so inscrutable.
All right now we have this case the lead story today we'll come back -- right one I don't Larry Summers.
Has withdrawn his nomination.
Potential nomination -- head of the federal.
Because senate Democrats.
Will not confirm.
Everything Obama has tried this year.
Gun control immigration Syria it's his own party that's bailing out on and there is no loyalty.
In the Democratic Party -- for obvious blown out of Apollo -- And there's more loyalty I mean -- it was a -- there there's enough on the when it comes -- things and we will learn on the budget so.
There because Republicans have not fashion based strategy.
That puts pressure on Democrats who would have problem.
They've been able to push them away but you know they have they have really hurt him this summer -- -- -- worked -- Three democratic senators when her dog on us everything can run on the bank human right and -- no match but Montana women out.
The you said no obvious I'm not doing it I'm not formidable -- -- -- -- there.
Because bill always Summers to -- confirmed.
It's -- Republican votes who.
But there's a man who is first of all the controversy surrounding him because he was one of the advocates on deregulation.
Yes yes he is one of the people responsible for -- Bringing us toward me.
It changes them offensive Glass-Steagall Glass-Steagall was great the greatest crime in history politics and 11 of the -- There -- many but that's one of them.
Which basically have divided.
Commercial banking from investment Christopher and it worked for all those years after sixty years after the new deal.
In Summers was one of the driving forces with some other people.
Who are eight in changing that and a lot of money in the -- A lot of money to be made on Wall Street so here we are on the fifth anniversary but I think the appropriate that somehow the you -- from the moment of the he hears.
What I would I I I take two or three things from -- be curious start your editor of course you're Steve mister bell.
The first is that this is the power of the democratic left asserting -- yes and I think that is clear that's number one.
Number two it's what pat alluded to his -- of the case.
The president's declining influence but also Larry.
-- something which I think bears some discussion again I think it worth.
-- his name was out there for weeks.
There was other than a private meeting on the hill between the president and the Democrats in the senate.
There was no explicit.
Nomination or even recommendation from the president.
And so more time past.
Summers is named two more and more controversy for the reasons -- suggested and given that.
The nomination by Friday was a foregone conclusion that it was going down.
Larry's reaction as I read it in the paper this morning was he felt that Obama had him let him twist in the wind.
What you would have expected if Obama one of them was to say look.
Larry Summers is my choice.
To -- called the banking committee members and said I want -- -- now given Syria.
Given his lack of close ties either to Democrats or Republicans the president doesn't have the juice in the ground.
But even when he had Jews he didn't work on the Susan Rice nomination where she was floating out there right -- and start calling Democrats for secretary's day.
And then he had to withdraw her -- -- -- if you were yourself featured Mike Summers that is very solid but he doesn't.
Wanted to thank you but you know -- -- and really wanted some granola isn't it because he went Capitol Hill to try to head off rebellion -- -- let me just say.
In rebellion where it and there are some real key player here -- -- -- -- Who was of regulators wouldn't against them or again in very anti Wall Street.
So if you elected -- she beat Scott Brown in Massachusetts.
And she -- -- -- and I'm saying before politics.
Views this sentiment against Wall Street still.
Is massive in this country Republicans can't seem to find their way to become the party of main tree.
Democrats attack Wall Street ball picking their money and everybody's figured -- Republican.
Have taken money Bavetta -- on a tackle pat I was making two points that I think bear acknowledgment first we've been saying that they.
Populist conservative Republican Party can get traction.
And clearly they haven't figured that out but the second thing is the locus of power.
Inside the Democratic Party has continued to move -- further left.
With and there's one other caveat and I think it goes back to -- shoes pat we've talked about before.
There is president's really wanting something I'd like something and putting your hand on a man on senator shoulders saying I want this done.
The Obama people are more negative -- worse -- than they are positive and inclusive.
That is this is not a man who builds coalitions.
This is a man who gets angry at people and punishes you -- we wouldn't LBJ.
Or Bill Clinton as Democrats who were active this -- Before -- these three senate.
Banking committee ten heroes he did that over in the white you don't need an -- traded on -- -- -- water he would have bought he would have gotten through it and made it clear.
And if you mormons Summers knowing how controversial because remember it's not only controversy about -- deregulation.
Is president -- and I think someone apparent.
Charged in the event -- -- woman there's a wall so you would say that these charges that he was cute guy -- woman.
Were unfair but -- charges that he was pro Wall Street where fair I think fear that it would hasten -- coming out quickly and everybody's.
Fox News US and see vet has written to us Obama has know loyalty.
He kissed more than anyone else the United States of America.
By only representing his entrance they said chapter.
In American history 2008.
But I -- believe that the president lacks a court ideology.
I think he lacks.
A clear sense of where he wants to take America.
And I think -- with this Syrian policy which we talked about yesterday.
You know that literally to dabble in this kind of a deal is in the details I mean do you trust.
As we were discussing yesterday.
The Russians and aside there's no one I trust less -- less we could somehow bring Kim Jong-un.
In to monitor the adults.
Yes what we have a whole thing and by the -- different.
He's refining plutonium.
That's gonna -- after he can speak watch it because he said why not look what they've done it.
We're gonna take a break we'll pick up what that's what we'll do Syria and other things after a quick break.
Political insiders will be right back.
Okay we're back and were re arranging what we're gonna talk about it here.
We're -- -- on the job of earlier with Packard Dell doctor doctor Doug -- got your name right.
Glad you did affect self -- important job.
All kidding aside let's go to Syria for a minute and that deal and the public reaction to it.
And the handling of it by Obama which the three of us thought a week ago the country was on the precipice of a major.
Turning point what the American people on one side.
The belt way intelligentsia.
Political class on another side that has held true let's put up poll number one.
And this is.
Gallup poll those in favor of military action.
The bottom line 36.
Were -- in favor 51 opposed on September 3 and -- Then the president spoke on Tuesday night the ten.
And after he spoke on the eleventh and twelfth they pulled again and look what happened 11%.
Were opposing it after the presidents vote on a national security issue bottom line.
The president's position.
Whether it be right and I think most of us believe it's wrong.
Doesn't make logical sense you didn't pass the smell -- People couldn't see the nexus.
Between the bombing and us being safer right they just didn't see it.
And pat made a very good point yesterday particularly.
Prescient -- always.
He said look.
When the undecideds move on -- against.
That is eight Pope mobile couldn't clear which -- -- look a lawyer for talking let's keep talking though let's put up -- number two which is gonna show the movement of undecideds.
In the pew poll in just -- -- but I mean they're very good post enrollment but look what happens in this in the imparted -- Look at what the week that just before his speech when they made their all all push.
To say let's get you know they've been -- by the way not just Obama.
But the Republican democratic leadership this afternoon in the in the car can -- that up -- -- -- -- number -- -- -- -- aren't.
Look at that look at the undecideds.
And -- -- how was 23 in the first column.
The -- earlier time right to September and look at it drops to nine and floods into opposition they go to the 63 in the right hand column.
-- -- -- when you have a fourteen point been about don't knows and a and an extra one for paper into the opposition.
This is this is what -- say this is this really bad the president historically when a president starts to move for military action.
Or the need to national security country rallies around always this -- has this ever happened that it would present president would have been humiliated -- and we should get to this point.
Putin had not stepped in to really set him up.
By bailing them -- and but there's a real problem now that the media is beginning to focus on now that the glow of the deal is fading in the we backed down on the use of force.
To win forests to deal.
We said it subject to the security counts not that there's immediate force.
Associated even in force again mr.
The problem is that the Russians will Vito and like -- Chinese and the -- so here's the bottom line.
There is no enforceability of the deal.
We know that the Russians know that and Assad and all of our allies and the Iranians know it right they all know -- here's the bottom line.
Vladimir Putin's book is the most powerful man in the world and as a Russian but Mueller described to me.
Why should -- is -- 160 million people half the size of the US vastly.
Inferior terms of resources both.
Military and economic.
And they are driving the entire action and we have no alliance as Roger -- wrote in the New York Times on Friday.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- is what Western Europe where was I wrong way Corrigan ever heard of them yeah he's the guy that picked up the fumble and I ran at the wrong way.
Sport that's what Obama did he fumbled Syria into Putin's hands and we'll listen -- in the game winning -- if there's a difference.
Corrigan at least had an idea he went backwards okay Obama zigzags or hands off them I mean I even saw -- yesterday Obama said there's.
No points for style if you get it right the American people say even get any better right.
Well they -- they're happy look what but let's go to larger picture of them fact mr.
Krugman is balanced weight from Ron and ran through him with the Iranians.
And really put it to us in the United States in our.
In his -- -- world about.
The nuclear development and Iran and show them them the most liberal mattered terrified now the united -- a little.
Deal he offered a few years ago is gonna come back -- -- when this thing was heating up maybe bush was still present I forget the Russians offered to remove.
The not yet enriched uranium and take it to Russia they would enrich it there to medical grade not weapons -- and then bring it back in the world would know.
Iran doesn't have.
Weapons grade uranium.
He's gonna offer that again it's the same thing he's doing with the chemicals like we will take the chemical.
And let's go to John -- also -- to the bigger point which is just more bulk of the American people.
You can even Peggy Noonan said we have said last week we have minority in -- -- won't -- This was essentially.
Unorganized and -- there was no mobilization against the war like there was in -- this all happen.
In the living rooms and dining rooms across the country.
From liberals -- moderates to conservatives Democrats Republicans independents those numbers we saw him on Gallup and pew.
Across the -- opposition particularly among independent.
And you know and it was the people against the political class Washington.
But let's remember.
Boehner doesn't -- speaker Boehner in Indian majority leader cannot jump right out in front.
And managed to rally what all ten members of their outlets -- it doesn't miss wrestler doesn't.
You have Dianne Feinstein with -- -- statements and matched by Peter King.
A Republican in the house which is you know people -- against -- but we know better than you do.
And the truth is is what I've read last week pay union's common.
The American people -- -- better than -- looking at this which you said -- -- -- this doesn't add up.
The state self worth that and we're not going to resolve -- and so what and the the president was facing was to be humiliated.
But believe me before coup and is done with him and -- sought.
Just like we walk and -- human -- in the North Korean.
Remember the framework to stop them when I know more now that they are now developing more plutonium and never woke.
-- -- is let's stay on the so let's go to number five and number six plays and we can't now.
Here's a comparison of the American people's faith in the ability of government to do things number five.
Confidence in the government's handling of domestic problems so in 2001.
Of people had confidence the government can handle it.
We've gone down to 42% right -- and those -- -- number sex.
Same question on international relations 83% no one.
Down to 49 and that's probably this 49 -- taken before the series Irish but I certainly I don't have gone -- from a lot more.
But John we are having and mr.
Goodell has been.
Particularly articulate on this point.
Decline in confidence.
In American institutions.
Particularly political -- governmental institutions.
Which -- across the board anti systemic.
A morbid sense.
That America and the American dream as we knew it growing up.
Doesn't work anymore our producer's saying in in my -- is this over or this is a revolution and it is a revenue as you know we talked about it -- this one's in revolt.
The quiet American.
You know wasn't in the streets it was -- weapons but it was rumbling against political power in Washington here's the question.
It points to when we saw with the NSA would -- -- -- -- a precursor of Syria Iran.
Who was going to do this on all across the board the vacuum I never I don't remember when I well look let's look let's legislative level.
Let's do this -- -- we had 63%.
And these other numbers were around 6065%.
Unhappy with the handling of issues -- let's just say out and America.
Round number 65%.
He owed about everything there -- -- -- that's right aka could the three of us take that 65%.
And get a candidate.
All of that 65%.
To run for president.
Would Hillary Clinton fit the 65%.
Or does she fit the establishment.
I think the answers he she fits the establishment she's focused she is -- -- -- John we have a system.
-- that 65%.
Is desperate for an alternative the problem.
Is the two sides disagree on everything agree on only one way that we can't have one keeping out and anti systemic figures.
Had between interest groups practice.
Attack ads they'll smears -- and ballot access laws it's extremely difficult for.
A person like that tumor but you guys and Americans elect a couple a couple years ago showed you could get ballot access hook it here's the thing.
We spent we spent about 3035.
If we've had double that money plus a candidate we -- started to break through when you're looking at a very very substantial and thank you.
What that point is it's the message is from dwelling this again at five resentment and realistically you have to have beat him -- and I -- just -- inject some of the answers -- system shutting them -- could that mr.
as I say the better saner version of Ross Perot you know if he came along twenty fishy 26 -- doesn't matter here shape doesn't matter.
Could that guy or gal with the right message.
Under the laws now.
If he couldn't get on the ballot as an independent could he take over the Republican Party with that sixty -- has -- right wing populist yes.
But it is very difficult to take over the Republican Party.
And then be able to come back that up with a message that would be broadly felt we got to continue this this is -- on the car and by the we had a Twitter tweet during the show that.
How sad is that the polo season it up a more effective speaker than Jon -- -- And I are just getting -- dollars on reason -- -- -- All right for doctor doctor Doug shown here for mr.
-- -- I'm Joba -- today we will be back on the Fox News Channel we think around 340.
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And we'll be back here 1030 next Monday.
Have a great week.
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