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-- Alexis had been hearing voices was being treated more mental illness in the weeks before the shooting Rampage.
-- was not stripped of any kind of security badge.
He got clearance he was just the regular guy going to work.
Should somebody -- its sense something you said something seems something.
Could this have been avoided.
You know I yes I think so I -- -- -- in our country.
If somebody is a threat to themselves or others the -- hospitalized.
And every every state has different laws and rules about that but absolutely he what is.
He's exhibiting psychotic features meaning he was hearing voices he -- Having auditory hallucinations.
You know that's what this agency was having delusions he was thinking -- People were coming to attacking him -- her.
Yeah yeah it is playing that are really going on -- you have very eager to care so it sounds to me honestly like a paranoid schizophrenic back -- that can't be sure.
-- -- -- have not examined him.
Are we are we.
Dark generally -- about how about mental and assignment is somebody has a cut of their -- and broken arm.
You can see it there exhibiting pain there's something physical we could see when something's going on in somebody's mind we don't.
Always know what the signs are -- -- they can actually from the outside and look normal are we re just not cool enough.
Be able to point something that is what -- that is mental illness.
-- well I I think that.
Yes you know yes some people are not able to see mental illness and likely get to know somebody in this case.
We have -- -- he started exhibiting signs.
When he was in his early twenties they talk about his anger spotted eating admitted that he -- anger issues and he.
Was using guns to shoot cars should it be you know Richard is would have.
It would have -- he's in his apartment and so he was exhibiting signs very very early here I think the problem we have in this country is that.
Mental illness which I really well brain disorder.
Is really still something that people don't want to talk about well really -- to talk about it I continue to see these mass -- be an innocent people getting killed because somebody is truly mentally ill.
And they're not being given the appropriate care so it's really just it -- -- -- -- I don't you don't have -- -- -- patient and -- -- -- -- read some things about him as little as is exhibiting but if you could sit down with -- Alexis what will be one of the first questions you would ask him.
Well certainly I would I would check his reality orientation.
Does he -- he is just you know what kind of -- it is.
What is he hearing arm and and try to get it -- it act is.
Any sort of illusions hallucination.
That really means just disordered thinking.
And -- professional it's actually fairly easy to spot if somebody is really mentally ill.
In this case he did -- that VA hospital.
And he was -- psychiatric police over.
Any any caddie school -- psychiatry or any field psychiatric medicine should be able to see if he was really truly ill.
Mom so you know it's really just asking questions and senior hamster racing and again he was clearly paranoid believing that people are.
Following him from Beijing you Rhode islands -- Hearing cure all sorts of things in his brain back there clearly did not exist and that's that's that's just.
Easy spot -- professional.
It's been my experience and mental illness is an equal opportunity attacker I mean -- in good economic level doesn't really matter but would you go back into his history and see if there's any kind of environmental causes in terms as you do that abuse or.
You know whacko -- -- something would you go back that far act.
Absolutely -- -- phenomenal question I think to do a really good evaluation.
He needs to go back to you.
The parents grandparents did anybody have mental illness -- regarding his -- that you really do need to get a really good history.
And I always believe that -- sure.
-- should be out nurture.
Every day so if you have somebody that has made only -- it most often is it brain chemistry which is really genetic.
And so if you have somebody there has schizophrenia.
You will almost always find mental illness somewhere in the family he treat somebody that has depression or anxiety.
There's always usually -- first degree relative.
That has either depression anxiety.
You know substance abuse it's always something so absolutely going back and -- -- family history and if there's abuse -- neglect debt that nurture are certainly apps but the nature partly out all the time.
And you're right it is equal opportunity.
Employer it gets everybody.
Yeah I get you know we've beaten and Lexus is dead.
It's anywhere that we really don't know why he did anything it wants -- -- some kind of manifest that.
Can give -- insight into what he was thinking -- but do you think without mental history if he -- Lived.
Would he have been charged with murder or where there have been some kind of extenuating mental.
Situations which would have sort of mitigated the charges.
-- Well you know I think dead heat.
I think his lawyers would have certainly thought -- -- you -- mitigating charges you know I think it's because he was mentally -- Italy and it was documented.
And -- what happiness on that particular day was it a psychotic break and T again.
This is being -- -- -- more a month before.
-- did he have other factors that led to his killing.
I I believe absolutely.
Again I don't long history of anger -- paranoia.
-- -- using guns inappropriately and that they that I think is real issue in this country is that he was able to get them legally.
You know -- several days before -- -- horrific because this is somebody who did it mental illness and it was documented.
And so I think they really need to figure out away without.
Taking away people's rights to make the rest of us say it -- -- -- -- it's very frightening and actually.
Most people that have.
Psychiatric disorders are not dangerous most people that perhaps schizophrenia for example walk to slaughter are not -- your example with so many schizophrenics.
And most of them do not have.
You know paranoid thoughts and you want to hurt people so it's it's it's much rarer now edit -- Alexis is but you know certainly our -- and -- Just meant to prevent another -- Alexis or any other other.
Virginia -- Columbine shootings in me what do you do and we want to prevent this as best we can't.
You know I think that we have to really.
Be more aware mental health issues and start to really take care people I mean what's happened -- this country is that.
So many resource have been taken away from -- mentally ill that they really cannot get help and you know a lot of medicines have been taken away because they're too expense there.
But the bottom line is if somebody is mentally ill and refuses to take medication you cannot force and here which is another whole issue.
But yes we eat -- we need to be aware because.
It's your right you can't look at it it's not like a broken arm.
But it's a brain disorder it really is it's -- genetics our -- and we have to start educating people.
And making it.
So that it's not something to be ashamed if it's something that can be helped -- if people are right medication.
They can really get much better so we need to -- -- There absolutely loving it French German license like a psychotherapist and -- -- up again on the yes.
Mental health situation of Arnold -- been -- urge you to thank you so much.
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