Power Play 9/18/2013
School choice, Obamacare and gun control. Chris Stirewalt and guests discuss hot button issues
Sep 18, 2013
Steve Hayes, Julie Roginsky, Katie Pavlich, Judge Andrew Napolitano
School choice, Obamacare and gun control. Chris Stirewalt and guests discuss hot button issues
Sep 18, 2013
Steve Hayes, Julie Roginsky, Katie Pavlich, Judge Andrew Napolitano
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-- and Chris our law and here are your -- cuts from Fox News first number one.
Obamacare defund it to get a vote why is Jim events highlighting.
Because house leaders today had exceeded the two.
The plan put forward by the former senator turned.
Vigilante I don't know what you call him that somebody who is causing a lot of trouble for Republicans.
As he demands a clean vote on whether to -- president's health law.
It could bring the country closer to a full -- government shutdown but it marks a big win of four this group heritage action.
OK number -- about number terror.
Downs lose support on economy and security why are Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi frowning.
That's because into Gallup survey finds a drop of nearly ten points in support for Democrats handling of the economy.
Only 42% of respondents said they believe Democrats are doing a better job than Republicans down from fifty want.
From a year ago now -- Obama addresses those issues this morning in -- speech to business leaders talk about that.
Number three GOP leaders team up for school choice Bobby Jindal.
He's happy too because he's gotten some allies in the form Jeb Bush intends got -- bush today to defend his State's.
Schools after school choice program against a lawsuit filed by -- children adjust from that says it is racist racist racist.
Because what they will do is make schools less diverse as kids top performing students leave failing schools.
They say it's racist Jeb Bush.
Tim Scott and -- say it's fair.
And then we'll talk about it.
Yes actually we'll talk about -- we have a good on the track.
Number four the backyard brawl why.
Why would I show you that it enters logo I would ever do that not willingly.
Know the news forces it upon you as a candidate running presented it send it in the state of West Virginia.
-- WVU who is in fact counting her status as the first female mountaineer mascot accidentally showed arch rival it.
It's -- -- beauty shot of the campus when she was trying to map higher education in an act.
Don't do that mentally and it it was a mistake and number five last but definitely not least.
Megan's walk congratulations to Megyn Kelly who has.
Fancy new prime -- show yes yes yes but don't you all remember election night when he twelfth which of the long walk down the hall there you see it.
Coming back us in the dirt -- to ask us why Karl Rove I thought we were so wrong about Ohio.
I was -- one trying to not throw up when she came back to ask the question.
-- she has -- championship and that's saying it's because of me just put out there.
But you wouldn't see that being able to watch that video all of that if you already subscribed Fox News first in your inbox it's awesome do it is -- the party.
We'll do it all right now as its power by.
Health care costs which were.
And continue to be a major source of concern.
Increasing at the slowest rate.
In fifty years and for many -- and in terms of your bottom lines.
Employer based health care plans have gone up.
At about a third of what they were going up.
When I first took office.
That was president Obama's remarks to CEOs of the business roundtable here in Washington earlier today and this is a power play -- I Internet.
And how about this the president there is saying his -- was helping businesses.
Businesses seem to disagree.
This and it is very.
But he was saying today hey look this law helps people -- -- the Republicans are for focused.
Forecast on trying to repeal the -- why are they so forecast on that.
Why are there so for this and that is Steve -- -- because he is -- senior right by its.
And -- and yes he is also.
Fox News contributor yes.
He is also being awesome and wearing had been maybe a Naval Academy regimental striped at a timely time to do that.
In your -- -- and also delivered I would say.
-- freedom for president Obama's political remarks.
You have the best best inappropriate and it was these days in the panel about the president choosing to go ahead with partisan remarks in the midst of the shooting.
Uproar so welcome -- there.
That's a lot of big introduction that was that was very generous that's the whole thing -- got nothing left in the necklace that -- -- my mom right -- -- likes the estimated that the Internet access to Ireland and is this it's it and thinks I -- great I think I have good necktie and I do appropriate well.
I'd say the president says.
To business leaders the Republicans are trying to hurt you with this.
It does seem though that the Republicans -- measure themselves at least today John Boehner came out and said.
Okay -- -- -- when we're gonna give you -- vote we're gonna give.
There are thirty or forty maybe.
Members of the house conference that will hew very closely and not deviate from what -- says.
On these issues he has powerful.
And he says that there can be no vote for -- continuing resolution that funds.
The president's health law and they say they're willing to risk -- -- is gonna let it get started what's gonna happen.
Was -- there's also bigger group of house Republicans beyond just it was a little hew closely to what -- to -- wants.
Refusing to vote for any.
She that -- -- care that has said in principle they agree with that even if efforts were made.
The explicit threat and that group signed a letter -- Draft by mark meadows represented from North Carolina and basically saying it's just that.
In that group last I checked was numbering in the eighty's this is a pretty big group and I think they get the fact that there aren't that many people who have signed on theory.
To this strategy and force John -- and.
When there's theory and then there's practice or twelve days at now.
From the class and we should point out that this is not the government shutdown of 9596.
This is the whole she bang today this is nothing stays open.
Because there's no in -- 596 there were there was a certain safety net there because there -- some spending authorizations and place.
Tonight is just.
You're well over the course.
Over this is over the cliff -- shuts down so security checks etc.
the president could order emergency funding he could keep the military -- I think yes it would.
-- -- -- I would say certainly almost certainly.
As you get closer do you think that eighty shrinks.
But you know look the president isn't -- in -- good position here you know I think.
There's been some speculation -- -- much accurate that the president wants a government shut down.
Republicans have oh yeah making this argument of students that's led us to do right now.
Barack Obama would love -- not love he would he would -- its existence but.
He is more than eager for a while -- to precipitate -- government -- Well even if Republicans didn't in fact technically percent to a government shutdown -- the president.
He had a lot of maneuvering room right now.
Two to talk to push one Andy and you know I think given the atmosphere to the fact that Republicans have been making this defund push.
Would make it easier for the president to be able to say in effect look they want this they pushed this on me.
I've got no choice and you know we heard this in his remarks today to business roundtable.
Both in the context of the of the continuing resolution in in his discussions of the debt ceiling where his message -- affect.
I'm not negotiating on the debt -- period and by the way house Republicans are too uncompromising.
Right -- -- it's hilarious the president through.
Goes out and gives a speech during the shooting crisis at the navy are attacking Republicans.
Comes out today in attacks Republicans for being too attacking political but I -- like Iraq and so I -- I understand why Republicans are frustrated because it's frustrating.
But it is also is -- the reality that.
Obama does have this -- wiggle room you talk about because once it shuts down an American would wake up be like okay.
You've been fighting over the three years -- in the third year essentially the same dispute Brett and we've been -- we've been jumping.
Cliffs three months six months three months six months three months six months -- the consequence after two and a half years is -- you finally get a government shutdown and people -- and they will be opposed to options one is keep the government shut down.
We get funding for the president's health keep the government shut down without funding for the president's so far.
Or reopen the government and -- the president's health law.
I think public opinion or at least that's what it was -- the less draconian stuff in 9596.
I think public opinion would come down hard against the -- it.
Yeah I think that's right it and look at me Republicans have done quite a bit of -- -- private -- on this matter and have.
Concluded at least those in the leadership that any kind of shutdown would.
Down to benefit of the president and certainly.
Did create it what it could could do is in effect.
Flipped the public's basic views on obamacare or at least this part of -- we've got poll after poll for the past three years.
Suggesting deep skepticism of Obama care concerns about -- not a job you don't like it did slow it.
That won't change but what could change is the public view on how Republicans are handling obamacare in the event of that kind of shut.
You know -- says if the government shuts down does that mean that Obama's vacation and play golf on his don't have enough taxpayer.
Growing -- there's probably -- -- there -- -- urgent emergencies and emergency spending will be authorized to get the motorcade to Andrews if you're a golf junkie like he is.
Steve case thank you again for your -- is excellent program and make time and not.
Affirmations with with power but maybe it's a word let's go for the if you if you don't.
Let's say it authoritative and it is.
Probation is it just happened to -- -- and that happened on meet the challenges of the best thing by itself -- these days thank you.
For making time for us.
You Internet you.
We're going to take a quick break when we come back what about school choice I know I know -- stick.
Fine but it's important it matters and it drives votes especially.
How education goes moms care.
So Republicans are trying to say they care and Eric Holder doesn't and how does this game at work is in fact when -- etc.
And -- well we'll talk about it when we come back cystic.
And that is what it looks like when children walk around and school.
But which school they walking around and and whether -- parents have to say about which school it is.
This is power play -- -- welcome back okay today.
Bobby Jindal as we talked about before Jeb Bush about him as governor Louisiana.
Jeb Bush -- governor of Florida -- got senator from South Carolina.
Hold up at the National Press Club two voice their opposition to the Justice Department's effort to hurt Louisiana's law.
As as one of the state of the country's more aggressive.
War lower case liberal school choice programs.
Voucher programs in the country holder says it is -- -- the Justice Department says it is Hathaway to.
De facto segregation.
As -- -- white students will take flight.
And leave failing -- -- -- leave failing schools four black students.
It's not cool bass and try to stop at the battle is on.
What about that people who know include.
-- -- she is former communications record for Jon Corzine yes she is a Fox News contributor yes she is a Democrat yes and she joins us from New York.
Yes I do and -- there are you.
-- we are well good friends here is Katie that's what she is news editor for town -- dot com she is.
She loves America and -- truly does she loves America in a different way -- through -- OK -- Question.
So the Republicans like to talk about school choice because -- doesn't involve things like shutting down the government right we're taking away benefits from people trying it's it's a good issue for them.
Does this issue actually connect with -- it is.
An issue that connects everyone -- school choice is something -- independent support is something Democrats support.
It's on -- on Juan Williams has worked a lot on and -- you know especially Washington DC.
And at this noon just for animosity against Louisiana.
And their argument that this might lead to more segregation doesn't even make any sense because according to the black alliance for educational options.
910 African Americans in Louisiana.
Favors school choice so school choice may not allowing only keeps failing school only keeps kids in failing schools and you have Barack Obama.
You have attorney general Eric Holder constantly talking about how education is a way to the future the black community.
Things education should be a priority and yet you have them issuing these lawsuits to a statement from a faraway place in Washington DC.
I'm which only keeps kids in failing schools percent prevents them from having a bright future because they can't get a good education Julie what it Democrats -- children.
And we hate them we really do why you know I don't I don't know I think it's inbred it teaches at a DNC school when we decide to become Democrats.
Look my problem -- this is not much segregation my problem like this it's.
By -- trying to make a bunch of kids -- it.
Idiots because in Louisiana you have money -- and public money have a safe our taxpayer Louisiana -- money will be going to something for example.
Calls -- -- Christian academy which teaches at the Loch Ness monsters of dinosaur.
Who walks the earth today.
I know anything about a -- yeah.
I don't know what I mean I don't think you know that I've had been a lot yeah I've never in the Loch Ness Monster ever -- accidentally.
Yeah do you got a lot -- miss my I would think that you don't think he's -- called Google.
We'll -- which you know -- not I'm not a rocket scientist when it comes to math but I don't know what biblical math this needs to -- its -- an -- I don't know what it is but you know as long hiatus.
So I first got -- -- first you do the lock is sponsoring now Noah and.
No one's saying today I'm saying no it was a great way to teach kids about two bites you have experts agree it's heat calculus -- something that my Cubans in the -- you have to feel to keep it is that just the ten depends Arafat's failure of.
So your complaint is that -- -- church state separation issue and that this money that taxpayer money that is put through in the form of these -- To fund religious -- But yes and beyond that it's funding idiocy because you know when they're talking about dinosaurs walking among us today that's and he says that maybe it.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- ever seen happy hour on Capitol Hill you can I don't I'm not a guy.
Still many happy hour as I have very ill and well.
Well ain't I I it's not a great way about us -- very much stuff by the -- -- any night after 8 o'clock -- dinosaurs still want to hear yeah I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that these schools that happened to have a Christian -- Our teaching idiocy when you compare them to the failing public schools in Louisiana and all over the country and you look at you know not everyone is forcing.
And I mean obviously -- to go to these Christian schools and guess what these parents if he's African American parents to support school choice.
They also pay property taxes and those taxes shouldn't.
Either -- a solid and sound like -- private school leaving aside the likeness months.
The question is this Bobby Jindal as a winning issue in Louisiana this is popular with Britain with both.
Is -- points actually.
Minority families who are.
Are we want to get out of failing -- -- And it's also popular with the Republican electorate in this state.
It's an issue Alex -- -- group has a new poll out that says like 70% of Americans like the idea.
It has broad based acceptance.
Eric -- fighting this on the grounds that it's racist not Loch Ness Monster oriented.
-- This seems like it politically -- -- great thing is it worth the risk.
Not because if you look at Obama I mean he's actually set the teachers' unions time to -- look I'm a big believer of school choice I love the concept of charter schools I have no problem experimenting.
With alternatives to failing schools I don't think it's it's seventy failing schools just because they happen to live in the district.
That has a failing school because they can't afford to go to a great school like I'm on board with that.
My problem is not that my problem is that by taxpayer dollars.
Should not -- spends.
I'm religious education -- a big believer in the core curriculum add a lot of Republicans are at a Republicans like Governor Christie New Jersey who are and the reason they are is because it's set standards.
And we -- have charter schools setting standards that's great I'm all for -- that's a good school choice.
-- just isn't because we're running out of time.
Do you think holder's doing the right thing and suing to block this law now.
I do because I think there's no way in -- -- I think that's where -- he should be coincidence that the schools you agreement not for the reason he stayed.
You know if you're gonna take -- not every not every African American family I think the motivated -- maybe taking their kids out of his -- public schools -- what's left -- that your legacy still left with failing public schools I'd rather pass that.
So that the plea and quickly -- the plea from the plea from Republicans is basically like mrs.
Jindal bush got and others.
Please talk about something constructive please like this is like come over here we have an issue Republicans that you could embrace that you can talk about that isn't just.
Fighting with Obama -- its fighting with Obama but fighting -- And it's making allies with Democrats and independents and fighting on behalf of kids and pointing out this argument that the Justice Department is making that school -- is racist.
But it's actually races to keep these kids.
In failing schools is appalling and it's agenda driven and to keep these kids in the schools and forcing parents to keep these kids in the schools and they don't have a future there education.
Is not okay.
They and that September and you know what I'm just being cynical.
But -- you know what.
Moms think about a lot when they choose there educate women choose their political stripes and pick candidates they like candidates that -- Even if they never do anything about it they like candidates that say that they care a lot about education.
You -- -- went -- with women you need and education platform.
We always need the helpful services -- Penske and increasingly.
I find AD to the Internet and quite thrilled to have you both here thanks ladies -- yeah okay -- Pew Internet here's what's happening to you next for you through you arguing about you.
Judge Andrew Napolitano Fox News -- senior judicial analyst we'll talk about gun control.
He will talk about the NSA he will make you smarter and probably tickle your funny -- -- -- so stick around.
Let's ask what about.
-- mental health.
Provisionable which is something we worked hard on senator -- work really hard on -- hand and something we'll look at but I think.
To show how.
Elementary this -- Background checks.
We want to stop people who have.
Mental illness from buying a gun.
We want to stop people who are felons from being able to purchase a gun that's what that's all about.
That was senator Harry Reid at a senate party.
Senate democratic luncheon today.
Saying that they want.
Senate Democrats want gun control to her as a consequence of the shootings at the navy yard on Monday but it's.
Of course not said the unspoken -- there was but it's not going to happen according to remarks from me that you made yesterday.
This is power -- welcome back there is great.
Outrage in the liberal press the Democrats are not rallying to the cause gun control again.
As they did after prior -- shootings in the wake of this one.
This one though is.
Much more complicated taking place as it did on a military installation with a gun bad.
Is that shotgun that you can buy nobody's talked about any sort of ban on that stuff.
And by -- on -- a background check.
Was carried out.
So it's tricky but centralized -- you and make it fit candidate will day and about this question that no one asks what is the loss today.
Who who would have thought of such a question is that.
Concepts court judge entered politics on -- The Fox News senior judicial analyst and our theory welcome Chris it was a pleasure to be within a matter what we're talking about what we're talking about so.
Big question it is.
Left wants gun control they're trying to fit it.
To this issue.
Getting Gifford's husband was out with a statement on this many we're going.
Right -- there's continued frustration with Harry Reid and others but the fact.
Acts don't quite line up here in a way to help their call now.
But the facts don't for example the background check.
That was conducted on this guy was one conducted.
Through the state of Virginia and the FBI pursuant to federal regulations that the left signed off on.
And the type of weapon that he used as one readily available in most states in the union.
Pursuant to legislation that the left and the Democrats signed off on.
Is with the concept of self defense that problem in this case.
Is that George H.
Signed an executive order and it was picked up by every president since then probably without thinking of the ramifications of it.
Allows itself for an interpretation saying that -- -- -- and the language is ambiguous it permits an interpretation.
That nobody except security will carry weapons on a military post.
Now I don't want to say how long ago it was so I had basic training.
In Fort Knox Kentucky in the Vietnam era of -- -- sergeants police officers tried for a while -- the trainees.
-- -- are very -- -- the thought.
Of an attack on us the thought of any crime he committed was the farthest thing from your mind.
Think about it who is better trained on the planet than those who were rated as -- the military is a higher bar -- the police this.
A presidential order.
Yes this is an executive order yes signed by George H.
Bush picked up by Clinton George W.
Bush and Barack Obama that it was his military policy I didn't know my I don't know not -- all you you know that my era of basic training George H.
Bush was when I'm president of the United States a guy named Nixon won every single finger -- -- Fort -- -- -- -- -- you -- yes yes I get for highway two unarmed black right Atlanta.
I am of the view.
Along with John -- LOT -- -- Genesis and works with us -- -- he is the foremost researcher in the country.
On the statistics involved in the use of guns.
And he can demonstrate conclusively whether -- more guns there is less crime.
Think about it yeah if if soldiers.
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Your column that will be available at foxnews.com tomorrow and it is tantalizingly entitled.
Surprisingly and alliant spying and line up a little bit -- -- revelations there what the government claims as its basis for spying on line Internet you know you want to and you know that -- -- it tomorrow in the box who's first now because it will be good credit and it is already excellent but you'll be able to see its excellence tomorrow.
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But these people delusional there is no chance in the world.
That really get rid of the chemical weapons in Syria.
We were not -- get the resolution that we want we're not going to get chapter seven we are not gonna get.
And you removal of these two weapons can be an endless process.
And -- side stays in power which is exactly what the Russians have wanted.
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