Power Play 9/20/2013
ObamaCare fight on Capitol Hill and the Republican response to the budget battle. Plus - is the EPA cooking the books on Climate change?
Sep 20, 2013
Josh Kraushaar, Amos Snead
ObamaCare fight on Capitol Hill and the Republican response to the budget battle. Plus - is the EPA cooking the books on Climate change?
Sep 20, 2013
Josh Kraushaar, Amos Snead
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Is what it looks like as the president gets out of town got out of town earlier this morning.
He is heading out to Kansas City where he will talk to union workers at a Ford stamping plant out -- About his call to raise the debt ceiling increase government spending on preferred programs.
As Republicans battle it out.
Here in Washington.
Over what they want to do in this in his power play.
Still high Internet and hide from the senate Russell office building where important senators do important things.
At meetings and stuff like that and we're here as our new home gets prepared for us.
Back in the Fox News Washington bureau.
And -- rather enjoying -- part of what we are enjoying is getting to see people like Josh across our.
In his natural element this is the natural this is the natural climate for Josh the executive editor quite so national journal's hotline.
Which was rock king at the blogging before blogging with school -- -- It's bureaucrats it's nice to -- -- there -- feel well this we -- we're an itinerant.
Internet telecast but we're happy we're very avid reader.
We're happy you made some conference -- we have.
Don't -- it -- breaking news what happened.
The vote in the house to defund obamacare.
This is not too many surprises but what is notable there were more democratic defectors to two Democrats in the house.
Voted with the Republicans to pass the -- -- in obamacare.
Only one Republican defected.
The average -- of Virginia 50% more Democrats.
It's -- having that the Republican -- -- we've talked about this all week it's divided caucus.
Look at the divided in the house the senate.
Most specifically but the fact that Boehner was able the find something to get -- -- -- Republican member of his pocket together it is somewhat of a remarkable accomplishment.
Well and there's something to this.
And you -- leaving aside all the back and forth between Jim demand and John Boehner and Ted crews and air scanner and all of the all of this stuff.
Nothing is real until it is and this was always hypothetical until this moment now the house is actually done -- thing.
They've actually passes and they have lobbed the ball over -- the senate now while we do not expect certainly that Harry Reid is going to let this go forward.
You get into some interesting dynamics for the senators as they have to deal with this.
Now what do we expect the senate Republicans to do Ted Cruz.
Mike Lee and others say that they're gonna try to rally the 41 senate Republicans to stand with this what's gonna happen.
Well I think you're gonna see much greater provides incentives likely.
Review you can and and and also Rand Paul -- don't have the overwhelming majority of the -- was able to Muster in their bid to divides are much more significant.
So not only.
Rather than the path to getting -- passage in the senate.
Given Democrats a majority is all but impossible but you're gonna be seen that divides and John McCain who openly criticize.
The foolishness of cruises strategy earlier this week you're gonna see Lindsey Graham some of the more moderate and pragmatic Republican senators probably -- there -- discontent.
And that the real question from here on -- is what is the end game.
We know what's happening in the back and forth in the house and senate and the divisions that expose themselves yesterday.
But what is what is the GOP and -- -- they have a plan to come up with something to put pressure on the president.
On what is.
Such -- Let me submit something the voters probably this is -- brutally hard hold because it's all based on hypotheticals.
Voters probably don't much care what happens here.
Until something happens.
-- the process of this and how you get there.
If there is a government shut down they're sure gonna pay attention to who's to blame and how we got here.
But if the government keeps operating this is probably a lot of -- and -- right.
Oh absolutely and an incident in infants to the opposition of the cruises in the Paul's.
It's that opposition in their districts or states where entries this case is aspirations for 2016.
The voters conservative voters back home don't care about the legislative mumbo Jumbo right they wanna see senators representatives opposing obamacare -- -- you're gonna be you know you're gonna basically you know passes -- are gonna pass the budget without the funding for the legislation the law.
That's that's on that politically speaking resonates with those voters.
But when it comes to the inside baseball that doesn't -- as much with constituents back home you have this real disconnect in the politics and the policy.
And that's what's driving a lot of division term capital now.
All right so -- do you expect we'll see -- talking filibuster in the senate.
I -- -- -- -- -- -- a good chance I think it's better than 5050 I think -- I think for -- and rubio.
Paul has been more if he on this press he's been back he's been back and forth on this but for four.
Crews and rubio and -- if they were willing to do -- talking filibuster on drones yeah they pretty well have to do and on this count that.
There's a principle that's been set in and rubio is an important player in all of this that you know rubio after.
Taking some heat on immigration let me get a chance for him to really -- himself gets some credit as he prepares for when he sixteenth presidential -- he -- that.
Get his his brand.
Established in the senate so this is an important moment for him a filibuster can accomplish our two presidents.
Heading out to Casey today.
He's gonna do his thing again he's -- -- Republicans are are bad he's gonna say they're being.
He's called him extortionist.
Earlier this week that's as I said -- an improvement over hostage takers and what he used to call them.
But he's going to be out there talk about this.
United on these -- you mentioned -- -- house Democrats who voted with Republicans.
But there's got to be as the president's agenda gets bogged down and we're seeing resistance to a -- Syria was our resistance from month.
Larry Summers at the Federal Reserve.
The unions are upset about that.
Outlaw this he have some coalition no problems he does but the reason why you see so many Republican strategists establishment folks if you will.
Getting its hopes that is because and -- pressure on this pressure points they're not passing that.
-- symbolic legislation that could delay for example the and the employee and individual mandate stuff that these -- very effectively it's in their favor.
A health care pew there were established pollster.
Voters look at Republicans slightly more favorably than Democrats when it comes to health care that never that hasn't happen.
Ever since they pulled back its years and years and in rare -- rarely.
But the GOP is picking the one fight which could lead to -- government shutdown that doesn't the one thing where you don't have.
The upper hand politically is the one fight that they're they're -- so.
Yes this -- hole.
Host of potential problems with the democratic coalition on health care.
Labor and you look at them to major unions haven't had no reservations about the law but that's not where the strategy is going up on the congressional.
As tax cuts and -- hit him where they ain't right you don't hit him where they are you hit him where they -- All right so what ever happens obamacare major issue for 24 team.
This is going to color everybody's thinking on how these votes go.
About all of that.
Mitch McConnell has a strategy to to delay he he is the leading proponent of the delay measure.
In the senate.
If things go down quickly enough if cruises effort is defeated quickly enough.
Can McConnell force a vote on a delay in the sense.
We'll come -- have a little bit of arrested when cruises strategy right to be exposed for its limitations.
But McConnell -- and stuck between a rock and a hard place he has a very credible conservative primary challenger.
Whose name is Matt -- is lined up with detectors with the party and anything McConnell does in a tactical sense like what you just described.
Is bound to get some trouble it's given Jesse the.
They see that -- thing -- -- the constitution day they'll since in the balance accounts.
All he did the difference between an amendment in an article about it was -- painful -- he got up and he did debate with Jesse Benton both of them have been on the show at different times.
But -- and he -- know that it was I was that's that's one heard of he's got a I think she's competent but -- the hit -- homer he's got a it all cylinders and he did it because they there big mistake he had -- where they were not rename OK Josh you know how to get him remain every time we appreciate.
It's like it's okay Internet we're gonna take a quick break but when we come back.
The fun continues here from Capitol Hill has.
We talk about this divide among Republicans yes.
But we talk also about that polar bear and what we're going to do that for that family of polar bears it will be consequence but we'll talk about it when we come back to stick around.
And that is the afterglow of -- funding obamacare.
As the now emptying house chamber.
Basks in the moment that in -- mostly all but two.
Party line vote to pass -- continuing resolution by the government but not -- the president's point of how far and this is power play coming to you from.
The Russell Senate Office Building on Internet welcome back now.
And welcome back to Amos -- he is.
The former Press Secretary for Roy Blunt.
-- was senator from Missouri.
He is what's your firm -- partners -- partners they're important you can hire them they'll do things.
And he's probable and -- -- he is a Republican as demonstrated by his neck -- And MS.
When we talk about.
This back and forth between the house and the senate I heard Eric -- last night on the record with Greta Van Susteren in and -- -- no good luck.
Senators good luck have a good time over there with your.
Thursday there was -- 11%.
Haunting component in it like one now insurers for the house has done this.
Cruise and companies say.
You know what we're gonna try our darkness and certainly they're dialing back the it's your job -- they're gonna try their hardest to try to squeeze Mitch McConnell.
And do something.
As we were talking about with Josh cross our there's gonna have to probably be talking filibuster.
For the Republican senators these conservatives to demonstrate that they're really serious about it.
Talk about this relationship between house Republicans and senate Republicans it's looking a little squeezing.
Oh it's funny bring about the -- Scott has spent five years in the house and a Ted Cruz is having a very interesting week a somewhat -- I think Republicans are gonna keep talking about this with Chris and we talk -- about a program called 340 B.
Right this was -- little hospitals I don't know if I'd like -- -- the uninsured or patience and that's what's happened.
Yes hospitals are selling drugs are buying drugs -- -- discounted -- selling them to -- someone with insurance that's felony drugs they're gonna -- -- the bump someone like you with -- children like now what's happened goes to the doctor right yet as it's implemented many players and expand Medicaid and expand.
Hospitals are -- this is a cash cow for them and I think you're gonna continue to see more news about this program as implementation what does that have to do with -- -- that's why Republicans officials talking about that's what Republicans want to bring up obamacare.
We can we count -- you're gonna see this this watch -- 340 B program are.
I've I've -- way as soon as I can figure out what it is I've watched it my question for -- yes.
This interplay this what seems like friction is it real I would submit that it would seem like that Mitch McConnell.
The leader in the senate Republican side.
It's probably pretty cool with the house leadership and their approach they've tried so he tried album.
With moving forward and until eight amendment to delay the individual mandate in the health law.
How real is the.
Friction really tough I think there is some friction I think if you look at the senate you know even energy bill they've had -- -- can insolvent back and forth with.
Reid and McConnell but there is some friction house Republicans is that they were acting.
Let's get it -- definitely -- -- Aniston hasn't.
Is there enough times so now were.
Let's -- -- government cuts that would shut down on the first which would be.
A week from Tuesday right is that right that's close enough and -- -- close -- yet the Internet looking up after the show.
But is there enough time because they're.
Things have to hold over for three days in the senate and this has -- is they're actually enough time logistically speaking to move all the trains and get everything in place I don't think there's enough time but you know senator -- has he he can no no I mean is -- is there enough time.
For the assumed course of events which is a painful vote for Republicans in the senate.
Four moderate Republicans in the senate -- to funding.
Then it goes goes forward.
Reid sends back -- stripped out version that probably as I said this is the one to watch.
Includes -- restoration it's a priest sequester spending that's going to be the Democrats in the presidents ask in all of this.
It goes back to the house is they -- just enough procedural time for things to hold over -- the ping pong match starts.
-- -- ping pong match is started at I don't know if we've seen anything from the senate -- in September now they have really done a whole lot this year.
This I don't really think this and it's gonna step has got a house -- guys are always saying the same thing that I think the same thing like hey why you guys think -- like you even being over in this building you probably -- -- -- guys are so slow that there's your cafeteria even slow over here.
So what's your forecast -- -- sounds like you think we'll have a shutdown of at least some period of the reasons worship you you think will be picked up.
And this and that it and then like -- shut downs it's fairly brief.
And then they turn money back on and I think all the cameras are going to be Yonkers or -- and he's been OK with that to this point.
But now there is there is -- certain argument -- that can be made.
Crews will be advantage in this.
Even if he -- Even though he is not likely to be successful in his ultimate goal that he will have stood on principle right well what is is a difficult.
The White House.
Less than three months ago.
President Obama stood outside in sweltering heat to unveil a new national plan.
To confront the growing threat of climate change.
He delivered in my opinion.
One of the most important speeches of his presidency.
That was EPA.
Administrator Gina McCarthy.
Delivering remarks this morning announcing new carbon standard -- them gone from the Obama administration that.
People in the energy industry say -- means the death.
Slow us as slower now faster later.
Of the use of coal they say -- -- mean higher energy bills for Americans in this is our flag.
Of all of the president's controversial topics.
This one touch is the most Democrats and touches the most Blue States it is a controversial one indeed -- already hearing a blow back.
Especially today as we hear news about an effort.
To get climate scientists working for the UN.
To change their characterization of their scientific findings in order to comport with the president's objectives.
I'm gonna level with the Internet I told Juan Williams we -- going to talk about something else but I think.
That if we put him totally on the spot right now and begged forgiveness.
He will share his thoughts about the political ramifications of this one are you feeling -- are you as appealing as generous as ever today.
Always especially we are okay all right we didn't make you walk over to -- so this counts for something.
So that we should also point out one Williams is a cherished Fox News political analyst and columnist for the L.
And he writes for foxnews.com Fox News Latino.
One is a busy man.
The president is proceeding with this this speech -- McCarthy excitement there was -- the president gave in for land.
He talked about climate change this matters to him it comes however at a great cost even within his base and even within his -- And I think what you're gonna see is -- -- you see the kind of controversy over the XL pipeline.
Now today with today's announcement basically what they're doing is they're canceling out Chris.
Any new -- operations in this country you know the rules are going to change right now the existing.
Operations are as stated by what you have going forward is an effort by the Obama administration.
To cut my third I think it is an emission standards.
It's a big deal and you hear from Democrats.
Already you're hearing from coal state Democrats but a lot of unease among more moderate Democrats.
About the approach because of the economic destruction to break.
The president is already having some trouble with union members.
And this has not been a particularly.
Popular topic with private sector you.
Right remember there's a larger scope for a larger parameter for the debate because lot of this is about the environment and about restraining.
But not -- -- -- carbon emissions going into the atmosphere in the consequence it has.
Not only for the oceans but for the icebergs and all that stuff that your marked more formally with -- but clearly not a -- -- Yeah but you have a lot of the Hollywood liberal -- that very same people who are up in arms over what's going on with XL pipeline refusing.
To grant any permit for a new pipeline those people are up in arms in general about climate change and arguing -- you pointed out Chris.
Who is right in the and there are estimates of how much damage is being done.
By carbon emissions.
And this this this scandal stuff from the AP today.
About trying to get scientists pressed their findings correct that we've seen before that will reverberate.
And you know what else will reverberate want.
You were at your very continued to reverberate thank you for generously switching topics person making time for us today have a wonderful Juan Williams weekend okay they're -- We will do.
Okay Internet what about you what are you going to do let me say it again because it matters to me.
You should subscribe to Fox News -- -- -- really really -- because you would already know about this business with.
The EPA or not with the yet.
With the climate change findings it's very interesting this has legs I don't know what we -- talking about before about Medicare.
That Amos was -- about but this I know.
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