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And welcome to FOX News Sunday -- -- with Brit Hume Amy Walter Karl Rove and Dennis Kucinich.
And as promised we're gonna continue the conversation which we were unable to continue -- -- time constraints.
On the broadcast show.
About Dennis Kucinich is interview with with Syrian president Assad.
As we're sitting here for the hour.
Did you -- yourself this guy is lion a bunch.
I thought about pressing them and that's what myself and -- al-Qaeda did -- -- give an answer.
We listen we followed up.
And that's where they're there -- I -- I mean I I -- you ask good questions in Iraq we don't have subpoena -- -- -- -- Billy club we can't force them to give an answer other than the one he chooses to give but I guess.
The question really becomes how -- Do you really believe it's gonna -- -- Wallace chemical weapons said let me just ask -- -- given the fact that he because.
Thank -- -- well you know there's no proof that he used them on August when he first.
By all accounts that they've been used in the course of the civil war repeatedly.
So so you one assumes that given that this is a dictatorship they wouldn't have continue to be used if he didn't want him to be used.
So what makes you think he's sincere.
And now being willing to give up -- chemical weapons well there it's.
I think we have to start with us.
That he said -- he was given an agreement that was made between Russia and United States.
That's where we start the call for listing.
There are the weapons he's -- -- submissions are ready.
He has two open it up for inspections in November -- and and I think that the metrics that are that are assigned to this agreement.
Have to be followed no question about it -- at any point there's a delay.
Then you have to increase your skepticism and if there's a resistance then you see there's no compliant but as long as there's compliance.
That's a good -- That doesn't get away from the larger issue here.
Which -- beside the chemical weapons is the fact that.
You see a secular state which is which could be destroyed by elements of al-Qaeda.
-- which is that you know this is there's an attack and Christians all over the region we ought to be concerned about that and if we supply at this this a government.
What's in its place because there are still people who are working towards regime change and we have to ask.
What's in its place if you knock -- our state that has a constitutional referendum passed a year ago a by the people guaranteeing.
The freedoms of of religion.
Not discriminate afraid it was so great there you know -- out this huge -- problem I think not so great there and the popular uprising which served.
By jihadist successfully.
Who -- legitimate opposition that is who didn't start it -- it started with with Nationalists -- didn't start absolute -- are -- you're absolutely right what I said it was surfaced Biden jihadist.
Essentially swept aside I -- me.
-- -- what -- did not swept -- the the two in al-Qaeda related groups represented minority of the fighters.
And there's no win the world that 5000 mostly foreign fighters and al-Qaeda including people from New Zealand which I find intriguing.
As well as Libya and -- Iraq.
Are gonna take over country point two million people -- look a little bit on after the Christians well look I love it that you're defending aside -- you spending has not -- because I don't know if you -- -- and Christie's.
Who's attacking the Christians in Lebanon the Hezbollah backed by the series who's attacking the Jews in Israel.
Backed by Syria so don't bring up the you don't try to play the religion and -- -- the Christians are under attack in -- -- and they aren't under the attack but sure -- and they -- under the attack in Lebanon because that's a side it has a lot has no -- no no no no please.
-- pay attention a little bit to what's going on eleven up for decades.
Hezbollah backed by the -- -- have backed by the Syrians have been destabilizing that country in attacking Christians and incidentally Israel a Jewish state.
Has been attacked by Hezbollah which is a client of a side as well as a supporter and they -- Randy it's so let's be clear about this this happening in Syria -- what's happening -- Syria is a repressive regime that is Islamist when it makes it's it's it's it's necessary keeping power.
And not Islamist when it doesn't think it's and its public interest is temporarily saying all look at the -- Christians in our country.
When it itself was -- those people not to many years ago.
Well I think this is this is the question who's beat -- and the -- and center of the debate over policy years.
Should we intervene in some way more actively on behalf of the resistance and opposition in Syria.
And -- claim is being made in assisting is coming from from -- -- way less than ever win the right.
Is that this is that it is a terrorist operation all the way and we would be is Dennis suggested.
If we have a son were toppled it would be replaced by the Taliban effect.
I think that's a dubious proposition.
And I think also it and it goes back to the question whether when this was getting going there was clearly a popular uprising with a little legitimacy of the debt would entail.
We stayed out.
We did nothing.
At a time when and potential for helping end of having influence with that in the compositional -- of the of the opposition would have been -- Now I think the options for the United States are less because of that.
And they're less because of that and also because we stayed out from the very beginning there's no appetite for anybody.
And the public to go back in especially when that the debates -- -- but we aren't we aren't -- and the Jordanians have could have training facilities that we're helping facilitate according to public reports and -- and we have a huge robust flow of arms to the Syrian opposition.
To the free Syrian the forces the non Islamist non al-Qaeda forces.
Being funded by the Saudi Arabia and -- -- alien and actually and they still have.
US well this is right well but but but but that depends I think -- weather -- lives up to the commitment -- making here but look.
Jordan Saudi Arabia the gulf states and others in the region.
There's a robust intelligence and support -- going on to to put the opposition back to where it was two years ago which was on the verge of topless.
You're starting to sound like Libya.
I mean we made a hash -- -- Libya what we made a -- by not being engaged in I think you're right if the -- administration makes the same mistake -- Assad falls.
And we -- like we did in Libya it's a mistake.
Now the good news for us is that we got allies in the region between Israel.
Turkey Jordan Saudi Arabian gulf states they're gonna lead us from from from the front and cement the United States stay engaged in Syria are.
Final words -- I was.
This whole question of war wariness about which -- and and you look at the polls and all suggests that.
Is if this were some new condition and our body politic it's not.
The United States of America is -- war averse country does anybody think for example that when -- in Iraq invaded Kuwait a country -- -- huge number of Americans had never heard of back in 1990 that there was any appetite for sending a huge compliment American troops and forces donated it to -- that invasion of course not.
What what made the difference in making it happen and and pulling off.
Presidential leadership and -- fails affairs is the soul of the presidency.
And a president does not effectively exercise it.
There's -- presidency whose foreign policy -- that situation in trouble that it garage area apparently and President Obama demonstrated presidential leadership and in -- in Libya.
And in march of 2011.
There was little support for going into Libya in a Fox News poll.
After we win and by July and August.
A -- a clear majority the American people by almost weekly -- better than 32 margin supported the action the president that he was a disaster.
And the aftermath and I some of that fight could.
Talking with us throughout the -- let us know what you think about what the US role should -- shouldn't be.
In Syria and all so what do you think of the so called peace initiative.
To get rid of all of those signs chemical weapons let's remind Monday edition of Wallace unplugged you can find it right here at FOX News Sunday dot com.
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