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Want to bring in now former US ambassador -- Shawn -- he's joining us.
On Skype from Salt Lake City, Utah.
Ambassador good to see you again.
Ambassador of the few people know this region of the world as well as you do.
But I would think even for somebody who knows the the threats.
The dangers in this part of the world this -- a pretty shocking attack.
To wake up and hear -- on Saturday morning.
Yeah I would agree -- accept it.
The -- won't -- have been.
Under surveillance for quite some time and so.
Won't surprise me it is something we will see more when when -- -- -- -- surveillance ambassador you mean -- been on this -- that we know -- been under surveillance by.
I didn't hit the terrorists in -- -- -- -- -- time you know they started -- in the eighty's and ninety's and they were murdered her when they're going to blow the embassy and they're still there and it and that are associated -- The elephant -- We as many of these Somalia who -- -- right on the border there.
We gave you so -- that there's been reports that.
Al-Qaeda people in India have surveillance that -- -- poor.
Aren't so would what does that what message does it send.
Two -- he and why should Americans be concerned -- about this attack which.
As we were talking Alia was directed very much of the Kenyan government saying schedule forces -- -- what does it mean for -- My job candidate legal horror that -- the -- pop.
Were more involved with the internal.
Struggle with the taking control who went.
-- -- -- -- Which is the African Union mission.
And in Somalia sent troops -- there from Burundi and Uganda and even can can you very strongly so.
-- united and in 2010.
Well maybe I didn't quite -- -- TV.
Welcome Bob emanating out of her sensitive going to attack.
And it -- it was a split between you know everybody wanted to control Somalia and other -- I only did where -- into the race that I wanted to do external tanks and I believe this is -- -- -- external attack.
Who -- and you're gonna see more lists and and you think that this could.
Become what mall and -- Weston targeted obviously they know that.
A lot of -- non Muslims would be -- that kind of shopping Moly indicated that city Nairobi Kenya.
But do you think they might make it even more focused on.
Westerners the next time.
No question about it I think that this trend will be more tourists.
Attacking western economic interests.
Of course in this case here its own you know I Israelis and then the Israelis know about facts that are patented and -- 2002.
When it paradise hotel on the -- that was -- -- -- after recent missile attack on an Israeli aircraft.
I was taking off.
-- -- -- This is not the first time an Israeli interests have been attacked and I think that is the -- -- is more of western interests.
And in particular -- you notice parishioners regrets that members you know there're some French.
There were injured Americans were injured so it's an outfit areas it's the Muslims area northwest of movie and it -- that he -- the area where you can expect exactly shopping there.
I don't think it's isolated areas around saying I think you can see -- The F up and did the White House is just said -- ambassador that it is being concerned about.
-- about efforts to recruit Americans but it doesn't have any confirmation at this stage.
That any Americans were involved in this attacking Kenya how significant their recruitment efforts the other.
That's look at -- the.
The volley error -- me -- -- area and surrounding region.
Yeah that is bad you know that the number.
Actually educate your way back to.
Somalia how good -- lawyer.
Few months ago it actually enable it and then I wouldn't it.
But the people that they're some they're probably didn't go back and -- the Arkansas and and -- my usual.
You now after candidly I'd -- 800.
-- wanted to -- that I believe it well what I've learned -- -- well it.
Yes and it doesn't -- how many of those are involved and that the tax hikes and a it was Beirut.
Operative -- well you know the fact I would be -- you're always you have.
I'm masters -- seems to me that we can sometimes be a little -- -- -- about these groups when something happens in Yemen.
We talk about the strength of al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula that we get the attack that we saw.
On the oil and gas facility in Algeria and we start talking about the strength of al-Qaeda in the Islamic regret now with talking about the strength of valves have Bob.
-- in -- that Kenya Somalia area how I mean I do we overplay this and overreact.
Each time -- all all of these groups growing in strength.
You know going back hit a few years ago to Bolivia where we just got colonel Qaddafi a lot of little -- What this series they -- -- they're on the wet all the way to -- And so fired -- because court.
They have a lot of took over and then.
The ball around and they're helping them there are all both -- father -- -- they're always.
And well you've got.
Although if they got -- quietly yeah.
And that then.
Course the powerful.
-- Syria and Libya the only organization.
I've moved back and forth along that I -- and -- not surprised.
They hate it but they're pretty.
Because you're gonna see more of it.
Very active and -- Iraq recently created tremendous ability -- And that -- -- didn't -- that world personnel Syria and here already today and radio but it what you're -- here tomorrow there all the -- Bloomberg Brooke group.
Barriers so that only the beginning and they're good people out your bottom moving around you're not going to be -- -- auditor.
And support the other al-Qaeda -- unit.
So this eight -- what you're saying is it in a sense that the events in.
Libya -- other North African and Middle East and countries -- need this so called Arab Spring as we first referred to it as.
A lot more weapons getting into the hands of these groups and a lot more freedom in a sense because of the chaos for these groups to former and organize.
We have liberated.
A new generation -- -- Everyone thought we.
Anywhere else it's silly to kill so and a lot of that they -- -- the decline what are.
Instead it is decentralized.
-- that -- -- younger people who are.
Smaller -- the al-Qaeda better -- Ambassador John price -- always stuff fascinating to told you so thank you -- sharing your expertise in this region -- -- today in.
As ambassador said that quote I think that we should all be aware of we have liberated.
A new generation of Islamic state frightening floating -- ambassador very good to talk to you as always thank you very much -- pretty terrible.
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