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I was governor of Arkansas part of -- -- governors which included people like Jeb Bush and John -- and Michael Leavitt.
Who believe that education in one state shouldn't be radically different from education in other states.
And we worked to created program initiative called the chief.
It's set national standards in a couple of subjects grammar and -- -- the program eventually evolved into what is known as common core adopted in 2010.
It's received an enormous amount of backlash from a lot of critics most of them conservatives.
And they say that it nationalize his public education.
One of the critics is the founder of the president of the education action group Kyle Olson and Kyle joins me now Kyle thanks for coming today to talk about -- It's very controversial I have so many people think it you know that -- -- kind of gone to the double because you know I've been supportive of the basic notion.
Tell me what you feel like is the biggest complaint.
Of common -- well there's several complaints in first of all I think as conservatives as parents we want high standards we want accountable schools.
But the problem is this goes well beyond that to me one of the biggest problems is data mining.
What is happening is the federal government is recommending that states collect over 400 different sets of data.
On students and so it's not just you know that's not common -- that's that is -- -- -- was two things just math.
And in language and it was.
Not curriculum it was strictly standards now and agreed the federal government and or state or local government could come in and call something.
Common -- but that's not what it originally was correct well it may not be what it originally was but it is what it is now.
In this in the data mining is what holds it all together.
And so you know I believe.
Technology is a good thing in schools and I believe assessing where kids are -- is critical.
But what does some of the points that they are recommending that schools collect.
Include religious affiliation.
It's if things go well beyond how we child is doing in the classroom.
And when the Democrats were in charge of the congress in 2010 they change the student privacy law.
Which then gives -- the federal government and the private companies access to this information.
And so what's happening is state.
We're setting up our kids.
Have all of this information released to these these parties have frankly I don't believe should happen I totally agree none of that information should be mind.
Nor shared but let me just point out that that is an entity called common core -- data.
Which is not common core the standards which is a state initiative so those are two totally separate things but they have the same term.
But they are not the same but they are all going together and that's the problem is you can't just simply have the standards without all of these other things because Arnie Duncan.
And the NGA and then all of the other groups that are promoting this won't let that happen I mean you look at.
What what Arnie Duncan is doing now.
And he's going into states like California and telling them what they can and cannot do.
And it's it all revolves around common core and so I agree with you we should have high standards we should have high expectations for students.
And teachers but there are better ways to do it because what's happening is it's implied that common core is the only way to get there and I disagree with that.
-- common course not a pathway it's a goal that -- Arnie Duncan who's the education secretary under President Obama.
You know he has his own agenda but common core is a state initiative it is not a federal initiative the feds don't control of the states do.
And that that the way -- simply try to explain to people common core is like setting up the rules of football it's a hundred yards from one of the the other.
The way you play the game inside those boundaries is totally up to you you can pass you can run you can do whatever.
But the rules are.
Here they are and you have a goal how you get to the goal is totally -- to use of common -- didn't tell you how to score it just tells you this is what it should look like at the end of the game.
Sure but the trouble is is there may be how it started but that's not the way it's going.
And I believe when they put common core into the stimulus and they offered stimulus money.
For states to adopt common core at that moment that is where the whole process was corrupted.
And in my opinion that is the moment were conservative should've said.
This is now this is an Obama thing and I'm not saying that's simply because of -- Obama but this is -- a federal initiatives now.
This is being pushed by the federal government.
And it's corrupted and we should be looking for something else what we should hope for is that the governors have a responsibility.
To take this back that's right.
And take it over and get it back to what it was intended to be because that's what should happen Kyle thank you very much -- even be here.
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