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Apple people talk about what happened in Kenya.
This is still evolving story and it shows that the danger exists and so when he parts of the world we have John Tenet as director of the Horn of Africa programs at the centers of innovation.
The United States is -- a piece you can find -- at at US IP we also have David -- -- former.
US ambassador to Ethiopia and you find him that -- -- Both of them on Twitter thank you for joining us.
Joba start with you.
I guess my first question is do you think the US has handled this situation me right now we have troops in more countries in Africa than we've ever had.
Americans may not realize that.
And there's a lot of issues going on -- says -- at sub saharan Africa but also of course North Africa which maybe Americans are more familiar with.
What is happening Kenya with Somalia next door mean.
Can you used to be a country that people could kind of focus on Africa is being one of the more stable you can go there -- you know for vacations that kind of thing -- seems like.
With this attack it shows that the danger exists and a lot of these problems are spreading now throughout.
Sub saharan Africa.
And that's directly Kenya has often been seen as a regional hub and a relative bastion of stability in East Africa compared to some of its neighbors -- and south Sudan Somalia.
I don't think this attack is too surprising unfortunately tragic as it is there have been a lot of concerns about activity like this.
Ever since Kenya sent troops into Somalia to try to help stabilize the situation in Somalia -- sent in troops as part of an African Union peacekeeping mission there.
Ever since that -- -- has been threatening attacks on Kenyan soil and there have been some smaller ones before this massive one.
-- Bob has also proven and ability to attack elsewhere they had a large attacks in new guy on -- a couple of years ago.
But this is clearly there biggest activities so far outside of Somalia.
Davis or Bob obviously making quite statements in Kenya a lot of westerners Americans were targeted.
There's some reports that it's still ongoing all of the Kenyans say they have it under control.
This is a very serious situation Americans should be very clearly to.
-- it is serious and the -- -- was selected for this -- -- was probably done so for several reasons one is an upscale canyon mall with a lot of fairly wealthy canyons.
But it also has saying the international clientele terrorist.
-- it also has some Israeli tanks although surprisingly they seem not to have been.
Singled out by the Al should bomb and I assume they must have known about the Israeli and investment in the moments.
Nothing -- very little has been said about -- -- -- bound bit it was an effort to gain attention and attention they got and they got in Spain's.
This is by far the biggest event that how -- Bob has done then.
And since the bombing in Kampala Uganda in July of -- funny town.
John again America's made our realized the extent that him that the United States is involved in Africa that we have again troops in it depends on the day but that believes some -- 34 African countries now.
We have a significant presence in an -- of course Djibouti -- had a presence in Libya we're not very we're very few now and Libya most have been -- Bomb but really across the region has been a lot of money there's a lot of lives out there we have Americans of course volunteering across Africa.
What does this do for US involvement Africa were more involved now than ever before it's about apples and attack off like it's been a country again it's considered to be one of the more stable and -- -- on -- -- I think it will lead to a lot of security conversations and a lot of discussions about.
How -- -- Americans and all foreigners are going to be in a place like -- otherwise.
Until recently at least considered to be quite secure.
My hope though is that the pendulum does not swing too far in the other direction because more engagements in Africa is generally a good thing.
Africa has some of the fastest growing economies anywhere in the world.
And so I think US businesses and American interests do have a lot to do in Africa.
And that helps a lot in terms of African developments and countering some of the poverty -- so very persistent on the continent.
But a lot of organizations and a lot of businesses and individuals are going to be asking themselves some new questions I think after this.
Ambassador there have been a number of nations and -- -- some significant strides.
In recent years in Africa what should the US do in response -- attack is there anything we can change we beef up our security situation.
Across the -- -- we get we have troops in a lot of late locations are -- in Africa right now.
Probably if you're correct that there are troops -- a lot of locations but in most cases those numbers.
In these different locations are quite small exception -- -- -- of -- you have a large presence.
In not need share where you have the most recent drone operations set up the last figure -- herders about a hundred may be somewhat over a hundred at the moment.
And most other locations.
It's pretty modest numbers are it's it's not as though American troops are flooding the continent by any means.
In terms of steps that the US might take clearly this -- got to be a a stepped up effort on the intelligence side.
Which is the first line of defense for this sort of thing and obviously in this case neither Kenyan intelligence nor anyone else's intelligence -- -- and advance on.
To that extent it was -- it was a a real gap and then the the effort.
Who knows how many efforts have been stopped as a result of good intelligence we don't hear about those but this one was it was a problem.
And you're probably going to see somewhat of a step up and security but the efforts to step up security at American installations and Africa's very high already.
There's not a great deal more you can do other than pulling out and I don't think we're prepared to do that.
Yeah that's actually true former US ambassador David -- to every semester Ethiopia Davidson thank you for joining us from DC also all of -- John -- tenant.
-- to the -- Horn of Africa programs.
Our -- and -- -- United States is to teach you find them both on Twitter at US IP and act AMB shin with two n.'s.
Thanks for joining us -- again as you as you mentioned is going to be a lot of stories coming in Africa.
In the months and for years to come for that matter as we are our continued to stay involved in these countries continue to evolves thanks again for joining us from DC.