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-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And that is the understatement of the year to say that the House of Representatives is in need of some prayer all of congress -- need of prayer today.
That was the scene just little bit ago as house speaker John Boehner gaveled the house and -- session big gavel.
-- to -- it up to the Padre to see if he could offer -- way out of this ongoing shut down problem.
And this is power by and we are.
As they say up on the roof.
And we are talking about what's going on back in that building as they have the as I said to somebody earlier today in shut down a stand -- Joining me in the lovely confines.
Up on the roof is Lauren Ashburn things that I can tell you about Laura Ashley.
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New -- media buzz with Eric -- yes this stroke -- I can also tell you that you are of the daily download -- yes this is also true yes and Europe Fox News contributor through and I want to know why Twitter wouldn't give you the last letter -- your name -- -- you just -- Ashbury.
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In Arizona was Lauren underscore Ashburn and you can see today that she's haven't every day she's having a great he's haven't -- integrated he always says that on that are just it's a great day I'm first -- -- -- Send your Twitter -- not.
And -- are not as good as others but Lauren underscore as well she's she's she's got to go -- OK so here's the question.
-- Navigated for 33 months some pretty brutal -- Within his own conference with the president with the -- with all of this.
-- re basically said -- stuff that.
And the Senate's gonna run out the clock and pass the government shutdown.
-- -- non government shutdown legislation.
Back to -- now it looks like in the evening his job managers that are running.
Well from a press perspective lets -- a little bit about how.
He has been portrayed there was a piece this morning that I found very interesting that.
Said he can't control his party -- he could but it is not controlling his party and I think from a press preview what we have seen covered it.
Is a very limited view of John -- because.
But we're not focusing on him were focusing on what Ted Cruz is doing we're focusing on the other personalities in this drama -- when it comes down to.
What he is doing and what he is saying.
There hasn't been -- -- -- well.
Bader has been a different kind of speaker of the house and any really of the modern era in this sense there's -- part of -- and acceptance of the reality of the moment.
And it's also in part his management style unlike Nancy Pelosi as -- immediate predecessor.
Kept her caucus that line that's the -- expectations Washington press corps is that what the speaker of the -- -- do is deliver votes.
Boehner said that was not believe when he said let's let the house -- -- well and the times that he's intervened to change an outcome have been much fewer.
Then the times he's let the -- do whatever it wants so we have heard this narrative over and over again.
I don't know if it's completely fair just given the fact that -- basically sent from the time that he took.
The speaker's gavel I'm gonna let them do what they wanted to.
It is he has said that but I I also believe that.
People aren't focused on what Boehner is doing or isn't he's OK with that bag and he's -- -- plus he's crying.
Right is OK it's OK thank cal Perry read on the other hand.
Is it gets similarly limited.
Or one dimensional kind of coverage.
But he is not getting it does not seem like I was surprised I thought that.
His decision not to come back yesterday would create more of a day more of a ripple.
Instead it was like that's passed legislation Reid says we'll see it tomorrow afternoon.
I was surprised where's the outrage that was what I I expected a lot more pundit outrage over this but I think Chris is because we have been down this road.
Sold many times -- -- -- fortunately and people up until really.
Yesterday morning maybe Saturday afternoon when news broke.
Thought this is just another Washington game and that's sort of the way the pundits -- yet right but then.
Then it became the story changed didn't in the press to hey this could really happens this is gonna happen this this really will happen.
And so I think the reason we weren't getting the anti Reid.
Information and press generated was because.
We just thought it would all sort of happened and okay either -- but they'll figure out something -- -- when they didn't it was almost too late to get into the Sunday paper you cry wolf.
Three months ago well actually turns out that in the end -- -- at -- -- no crying wolf to say that you are you were rated action shout having you on the Fox News thank you I hear.
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Internet and we thank you for making -- -- -- you Internet don't go anywhere state here because let's talk about this the president's health care law is going into effect tomorrow.
-- double irregardless of what happens we'll talk about what the politics of that are going to be it with Smart people who know.
So stick around.
Pages are being held together right now with duct tape and chicken wire we're not sure what -- even started any the F.
And that was Candy Crowley on CNN standing up for the president's health care exchange is to senator John -- Republican from Wyoming who thinks they're not so hot.
This is power play welcome back to the roof of the building.
Hear from as we're calling it today shut down a stand.
With the capitol behind us with a lot of tents in action going on back there.
But the action is intense here on the roof.
As we talk about the implementation of the president's health care law.
With you know Joseph -- -- -- -- -- Fox News contributor but Internet he helped to revolutionize you.
And the way that you affect politics but Aaron -- him and his democratic strategist is it isn't serious -- so glad that he's with it.
Also a serious person is Johnny Cash back I don't know message to send that message -- -- -- a strictly a daily business before this is Jim Baker -- gym bag that would not looking very cool.
He is of the American conservative.
He is a Fox News contributor is served -- Republican White House's.
For a long time.
Started when you were just a boy.
Four Ronald Reagan -- -- -- -- -- the sun glasses totally hip welcome gentlemen thank -- is okay now.
Let me posit something that -- -- tribute will totally discount and say is absolutely ridiculous.
I think it's ridiculous at best as a preemptive we just -- -- at -- -- and that would have -- -- the best day.
For republic for democratic chances to retain -- -- or read today or cut the Republican majority in the house would be a one year delay in the president's health care law.
Now -- now now I don't think so you know what I'm saying about that yes I think it's not going to great right.
Yeah I know I don't think that -- advocates -- we're -- Bill Clinton did remember Bill Clinton said Jim Baker and 2011.
But he talked to the democratic house retreat it's at their problems of this what you need to get caught fix them.
I have seen the focus groups I have seen the polling numbers women goes over the -- they'd love the idea of a delight they think it delay is a great idea what it's not ready -- still -- Why don't Democrat I know -- you know it -- -- eight.
I I think there's something to that except for the fact it almost no wind thinks -- They should shut the government and given the delays and the best thing until we -- segment thought OK yeah I'm sorry what was this shut down I didn't I was around me I got I was right now they're dirt -- trying desperately listen to the kept showing us away dividends -- and he had to commodities and see exactly we we don't we don't like our -- within the Connecticut anchored to the Republicans have been dragged to this point about delay.
But delay seems to be the thing that is a political winner -- -- -- bad about -- -- Delay seems to be the thing that tackles the most fancy I think in pure political terms surely you'll be mentioned you brought up the nineteen to 22 -- 1614 elections as an example.
Best thing possible -- to go forward with Obama care for the republic absolutely WA AF.
Yeah that's -- can't figure out.
I think that this let's.
It if this thing is still -- that clear yet if it's that redirected believe that the -- and it's going to be a mess and it's going to be disaster.
And people theaters premiums will be going up and they won't be able to get health care and nothing nothing the president and the Democrats are promising it's gonna work.
-- I think 2014.
After you keep from.
Voted to repeal -- 41 times of year the Republicans.
To be a banner year for the Republican Party yeah yeah America's -- -- over health care Jim -- obamacare -- -- Right now the defending what happens over between now and the debt ceiling and over the next 22 fiscal clips that we'll have to jump between now the next mid term election.
The -- this big tilt among independents.
Looking very much like 2010.
Things are not looking good for Democrats bill -- and turf.
Basically the most revered Republican pollster.
Put -- his policy memo Friday ends and back and turf is no wolf crier.
Put out the memo it said.
That the structure of this electorate is very looks very good for all right and and the structure of the.
For -- 1985.
The great for the Republicans going in 1996 but they changed it.
Connect with who shut -- okay well tonight -- A bold prediction bold prediction I think 2014.
May be exactly.
For the Republican Party with 2010 was.
They have a speck -- older they spit test the lower turnout mid term election in which they do very well.
Speck tack it feel like more emboldened going into 2016.
And then just like 2012.
When you get the larger turnout in the demographics actually kicked kicked in again right but even worse.
The Republicans did just -- in 2016.
-- net conclusions from them right exactly what I think is gonna happen if this hurts if this continues the way it's going right.
-- that's what everybody let's start with a set them anyway.
How -- this.
Bill Clinton's position in Barack Obama's position relative to the electorate.
The house republicans' position -- relative to the electorate looks somewhat the same that it did seventeen years ago when we last had to shut down.
The major difference seems to be the Bill Clinton.
Enjoyed his internal numbers were better people seem to that there were some dissatisfaction but some internal numbers were better also that the economy was going gangbusters.
How is it different how is -- the same mr.
-- Well I think for so I think Clinton's numbers weren't that great.
And in 83 days before he was he was authorized him to put their -- -- one termer he'd been repudiated badly in the 94 mid terms the Republicans have done better.
In 94 than they did in 2010 you know it was we -- the senate as well as of the house back and they for.
But the country it is -- -- to say the least of obamacare.
And they will -- they'll naturally blame the Democrats and the president for that unless.
The Republicans interfere with the barrel Pickett's charge or or -- -- -- are on the shutdown and default stuff they look.
-- aiding in the sense that they can and do the impossible which is controlled congress from one chamber and dominate the president and beat back the media and public opinion and it just it just.
-- -- -- -- But it I mean the the other thing it's it's going on here is the Republicans half.
-- -- you have to look look where this really be fought out isn't elections right you have to win this and it.
They have to win the senate and they have to.
It and they have to win the presidency otherwise they're not gonna get rid of obamacare Obama here.
Is the president of the United States is never gonna sign a bill that it did repeals or.
Somehow puts obamacare and -- -- it's hit the single.
Achievement of his administration do first term his signature -- it's just not -- -- What's shut down or Barack Obama horror conservatives in the house.
I don't look I don't think there's anybody who really -- -- order the innocent people most want to shut down our.
Thirty or forty Tea Party Republicans close second as Obama and the Republican establishment people actually -- -- win elections are away distant third or are they waited out there.
-- -- -- Absolutely all right what's your -- shut down not -- that gentleman.
Distribute starting with you there's going to be shut -- a little -- I don't -- compromises and a company really shut -- north like -- like -- award I don't think I think -- because you have the -- -- ideological view that it's ideological and also you have October 17 coming coming down.
So you got another.
It -- you know -- didn't -- raising the debt ceiling.
The they're so -- we don't know what was said it's I don't know but I played this is more likely that may become conjoined in the last longer you have to get I think we will I think the difference between this and 1980 -- is -- in 95 it was kind of personal Clinton and I and and and and and Gingrich malice or structural.
You know any of those interviews that then I think it will be shut down and maybe there should be no I don't -- -- -- goes and yeah yeah that is -- that's.
Air -- I think hey look at -- I think I -- yeah I think that what's in the what's needed is you who is Smart attached that you win do you win the argument Daniel when you expect him.
All right well.
I -- the argument about who looks best in sunglasses on this panel has -- wanted him angered them gentlemen we thank you four.
Being with this their future is so -- they have to get you -- anyway Internet -- it'd take a quick break.
But how would you like to meet the man.
Told CNN the cable news network called the architect.
Of -- government shutdown really.
That well anyway he's a congressman from North Carolina he'll be with us we come back so stick around.
-- -- Playing ping -- because why not because we have it because it was there and this is power flag up on the roof.
And go to the Chris service one who wanted to know we were not shut down of out of the -- Because of the -- government shutdown.
We just like to sometimes -- -- little bit and show you the whole of congress instead of about four feet of a pillar behind this so that's what that is.
But here's a look anyway at what pillars inside of buildings look like.
Please say hello to congressman mark meadows he is a Republican.
He is from.
The western part of North Carolina.
Outweigh the ancestral home of -- power play is.
And he is of the foreign affairs committee and of the oversight committee welcome congressman.
It's good to be waiting thanks so much.
Now why dead it's CNN call you the architect of the government shut down what do you wanna shut down the government.
Well that's never been my intent and obviously headlines says cell.
Media but from my point of view I can tell you we've been working with leadership for the last ninety days.
And we had -- -- one is says not to shut down the government the second part of that is to make sure the harmful effects of obamacare.
Did not play out on main street back home in and that's what we're attempting to do and and continue to attempt to do that would just not getting a whole lot of back and forth with the senate.
Well that's why we showed that -- playing ping pong because the ping pong game continues today.
As this and it will come back and it is expected in short fashion.
To send back to you the one year delay in the implementation of the health law that you guys passed just after midnight.
On Sunday and come back with what they're calling -- clean but which is to say to continue funding the government in all aspects at current levels including Obama care.
Through the middle of November.
What will the house say to that.
Well I am -- I can't speak for the whole house I can tell that we're united on one thing and that's making sure that Obama here.
And it is that is not ready for prime time that we have the time to make sure we can make the corrections.
So that people like it in my home state where insurance rates are going up by four times for.
Males three times for females.
It's just unconscionable.
That we would do that and so we're working.
With all that the fervor that we have do to try to avoid this.
But we're not get a lot of help from the senate you know where were they yesterday I can tell -- we've been working around the clock and it.
You know just dedicated to make sure that they take this at their own pace so that they can force -- government shut him.
Well either force a government shut down it would -- more send it back to you with so little time on the clock.
That some thing.
-- that you guys don't have much leverage.
In the minutes before the clock strikes zero.
Well and you're right but I think the people on main street are tired of those kind of shenanigans in and Harry Reid needs to be called out on.
You know he comes from a state where gambling is legal.
But he's gambling with the health care and the financial well being of what moms and dads and and hard -- American taxpayers each and every day.
And and I say enough is enough he needs to come to the table and negotiate let's have a debate and and debate the issues.
Now in terms if that speaker of the house were to come to you and say look.
We need a very short term spending resolution very very short term that is to say.
A couple of days a couple of few days to buy more negotiating time to continue things at current levels and avoid a shut down what would your take on that day.
Well you know if there's a deal is imminent and and -- -- just standing entity to put forth the technical language to accomplish that.
Then I think all of this is rational people can see that but what happens we continued to extend this debate and debate and and you've been around long enough to know that.
And nothing gets done in congress until their backs are to the wall and since doing so in debt on a hypothetical.
I think is unreasonable.
OK so just it not not just to kick the can arbitrarily.
But if it were to try to get a final deal together then maybe.
Yeah I mean if we got the workings of it and and at this point I don't see the workings of the deal because quite frankly Harry Reid is is not talking to anybody.
Now what about this what about the provision to force members of congress and their staffs to submit to the full measure of Obama care.
Instead of any exemptions.
That as something to buy a little extension.
That -- -- -- something away to get something out of Democrats.
Just even if it was to get a couple of weeks of funding.
Well pack it -- -- if the question is MI for congress living under the same laws that main street lives under the answer is is yes.
That's when I campaigned on -- not -- to have one deal there and another.
Somewhere else but really this is all about fairness why we give a break to congress why we give a break to insurance companies why don't we give breaks to business.
And yet we leave the American people out -- I think it's time that we stand up for the people back home and and stand up with a renewed vigor and that is unyielding to make sure that we address the problems.
First we we thank you and we're sorry that you have to deal with having -- Waltz in your district down there and we are difficult to govern.
So thanks for trying anyway.
If you had a favorite David Brothers album.
You would know him already but if you don't now you do that's congressman mark meadows thanks congressman.
Thank you so much it's good to be went.
And by the way Internet he is the only person that -- distinction.
With Gus Frerotte.
Of having of having replaced Heath Shuler -- rod of course doing it for the Washington Redskins instead of in congress.
Anyway Internet I've no idea where will be tomorrow but will be for you all wherever we are -- however many a government functions.
Are currently being executed.
Are we will continue to be equally ardent in our love and affection for you.
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Well well we don't have a word from Charles so it's just good bye good night good luck on the -- with Jonathan Hunt is it is up next and we'll see you back here to --