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And main jets all -- major development -- week obviously when President Obama.
Placed a -- to the new Iranian President Hassan -- -- The first time the leaders all of those two countries have spoken since 1979.
Does it -- -- the -- all of the relationship between Iran and the United States.
And possible progress on persuading Iran that it should not.
Puts you with nuclear weapons of course Iranians have said then not doing that they only want nuclear technology for peaceful purposes so well well we.
-- all of a sudden nobody -- -- former US ambassador the Bahrain.
Adam -- -- joining us now from DC ambassador good to see it.
Good to see you -- So this they was -- historic phone call no denying that.
Hot is it a certain sign that.
All progress all is it as a lot of critics of Iran would say the Iranians playing for time.
It's a sign of progress but limited progress.
There is its progress is because.
Look -- we've taken steps we haven't taken and in over thirty years.
First with -- meeting the foreign minister is -- -- me and foreign minister second with.
Pres Obama calling for general honey so I mean.
It is -- thought.
I wouldn't be overly enthusiastic about it or overly.
Because as everybody -- said the devil's in the details and we'll see.
If -- gonna walk the walk.
On October 16 when discussions begin in Geneva on their nuclear program.
-- -- that now and what one person who is extremely unhappy with it and doesn't think this is any -- I've been a smokescreen by the Ryans is of course Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
He's at the White House meeting President Obama today.
What do you think his message is going to be no compromise whatsoever don't talk to these guys -- just trying to pull the wool over your eyes.
I think -- his matches and is number one don't don't be fooled.
This is a very capable and aggressive regime.
That you know you can't change history or turn back the clock overnight.
They have a they have a long track record of trouble making an aggression.
Against the United States and its allies including Israel.
We we we shouldn't forget that.
However I think what President Obama is gonna say is.
If we can.
If we can neutralize their nuclear program.
That's gonna serve everybody's interests in.
I think like a lot of other people.
At a healthy degree of skepticism.
Much on the other hand you can't say it's not worth trying.
I think the key thing here and and perhaps this is where the -- gonna meet the road the key thing here is how long how much time -- -- gonna give it.
Are you got to let them play this out forum for further years or you never really quick timetable in terms of determining.
Who when progress is achieved and how quickly progress is achieved my guess is -- going to be arguing for a very quick timetable of verifiable measures that Iran agrees to and if they don't agree to it that is a clear signal of their intentions.
Frankly you know -- interesting -- is -- -- himself has said they wanna make progress quickly.
As has -- so.
Everything is in the timing at this point I think.
And and and talking in any way shape or form is almost always bad.
They're not talking in these situations ambassador.
Some people would would like to say that I'm not so sure I agree.
Why because the last time I mean it's interesting to look at raw honey as that's a figure in -- -- in modern history.
Remember in 2003 to 2000 -- five.
When the EU.
The EU three launched a negotiation over Iran's nuclear program -- Hani was the chief -- nuclear negotiator.
And they use that negotiation as a cover to develop.
And uranium enrichment facilities so talk is not always good I mean sometimes it's a cover.
To produced to advance -- your technology in your weapons producing capability.
We've got to trust but verify.
And -- solar -- wall -- trust but verify.
One -- -- concrete first steps that you believe Iran could agree to immediately.
To give us that kind of trust on which we can move forward -- So well I think I think a fact that's that's quite neglected and all the discussion about discussions with Iran is.
We've been talking to them at a very senior level for the last five or six years.
Remember the undersecretary for political affairs of the State Department that number three official.
First bill burns and now Wendy Sherman had been leading or participating in.
Multilateral talks with Iran nuclear nuclear negotiators in the 140.
For five years or six years they've been putting questions to Iran that Iran has been unwilling to answer.
Questions that would verify.
And answer doubts about whether their program.
-- a military.
Aspect to it.
I would say the first thing.
First thing that we should see.
And we should demand to see is.
Answer the questions that you've been -- for the last five or six years that to me would be a clear sign of good intentions or not good intentions so there's a -- Long to this that we need to see rather than now.
Slightly out friendly out tweets sent by writing tutor in Brazil right.
I mean look we've seen this style now it's on to the substance and you can't you can't you know talk your way through a verification deals on nuclear program -- -- just you know there's no wiggle room there.
Wolf see where that they're really really serious in the next two weeks.
-- either one of our viewers are writing in here.
Ambassador says had to -- can't control of these weapons.
To make sure -- I'm just trying to get out of the spotlight by giving up some.
Up -- should not all of what they Havel Walt they've done so far.
I mean it's did the whole verification.
All of each step is not simple by any means is it when when would they appear to have secret facilities.
Very deep underground etc.
the verification is a very difficult thing.
Yes yes it is.
And let's be clear -- just there's old something your -- question and that that may be that -- Remember they don't have nuclear weapons yet the whole purpose of this effort is to prevent them from using.
Uranium our nuclear fuel to create nuclear weapons.
We believe there -- using a -- a peaceful nuclear program for energy as a pretext to develop nuclear weapons so.
They've got secret facilities.
They've got facilities that are dispersed.
They have activities they've declared -- not declared.
It's up to the IAEA the international atomic energy is agency.
To get in there and look at these places but again.
You know it all boils down to intent.
-- -- are Iran's intentions.
Are their intentions to comply with UN Security Council resolutions and get sanctions lifted.
Or is their attempt to have it both ways.
Look like they're complying get the sanctions lifted and develop a nuclear weapons.
There's -- -- like I said there's a healthy degree of skepticism.
That it's not the former and the latter that they're using this as a cover to get there weapons and to.
Put off the international community and to relax the international isolation that they've been under for the past ten or fifteen years.
-- -- a -- to think Avaya global situation right now in which the old adage trust but verify is more act.
ambassador thank you very much indeed great to get your perspective.
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