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Now let's talk about it some more right now in fact.
-- without daily -- bash with cal Thomas Fox News contributor of calls I assume joining us from his secret bunker yes there he is indeed.
Good to see you cal thank you John what I learned about in this -- event in this -- again where -- where.
All going to be talking about this all day all week how do you think the -- that the media coverage.
Is this -- sort of shaping up we reflecting the public mood -- -- week creating the public mood here.
It's a little bit of both I think Jonathan what you have here is what you have during an election cycle.
-- the horse race who's up who's down what are -- political opinion polls say.
The party in power the party out of power.
But I -- -- political panel the real problem here is not so much the people in congress it's the voters -- seven these people.
If they don't want gridlock and they don't want anything done ten different people.
And that's what I think ought to be the Republican message to the media.
-- -- Hit -- hit take a look at how this is going to pan out you already seeing the it's like a hurricane in the initial wins.
Channel for the NBC station here in Washington reporting today.
That's the back.
Panda cam the camera that looks into the and -- cage at the national -- is going to be turned off tomorrow now no human being operates that it's an Internet camera it's free access.
But the the people in government know how to play on the people's emotions.
You're gonna have all the networks down there -- -- -- you're gonna have done that national park showing that they're closing you're gonna have.
Horror stories little old ladies who say they're gonna starve to death.
For the low information voters is going to be enough for them to scream at the Republicans to go ahead and -- down to obamacare and everything else the administration wants to do.
If that's so and what did you believed I mean other than not being able to watch Pam -- of the national zoo how.
How quickly do you think this if if we get the shot down a midnight.
How quickly did does it really have an effect on the -- says and to an extent that is going to make the mad enough to get something done.
Well each one has different -- you know there have been I think more than a dozen government shutdowns under various definitions.
In the last thirty years some of lasted longer than others the most famous in recent memory of course was the one between Bill Clinton and that's.
And Newt Gingrich but look at government shut down in and of itself which is not really -- shut down because of the a lot of agencies still going on of course.
It is is not the issue the real issue.
And the media never bring this up in the in the discussion of the substance.
Of what we're talking about here it's again it's all about the power -- a horse race.
The real issue is that debt that is hurdling toward.
Seventeen trillion dollars much of it borrowed from the Chinese.
And over taxing and if people don't like this functional government they have now.
And the way the government has been running -- ruining everything.
I'm saying in my -- in my column tomorrow listing a whole bunch of government programs that it failed miserably and yet still continue to get money the media never cover that.
Headstart food stamps Social Security all these things need to be reformed and now the post office wants a three cent increase -- stamps.
Because of an emergency and funding that will cause more people to stop using the post office.
And of course that will cause more people -- the media to say well.
Still there's a problem for the unions I think it if it's just going on and on and on Jonathan and never stops.
Yup that's it -- never don't seem to stop bloody great.
Like how great to see you as always thank you very much for being arrogant bunker.
That -- and others of course you can -- I catch on media buzz hosted by Howard Kurtz Sundays at 11 AM eastern.
Focus on the way the media covers all manner of stories it's a show.
You rarely should watch and if you're not around at 11 AM.
On a Sunday because you having -- -- whatever DVR it's well worth that you won't regret it.
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