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Favorite people Bob could -- managing editor of the hill it's an all star lineup this is better than the breaking bad finale much better.
Well and good did have a good to see -- there.
A lot going on oh my word as I said to us senate -- just a couple of minutes ago that meeting of the White House went what apple cool what was the point.
Yet -- -- you gotta wonder what the point was maybe it was just an optics thing the president and called for a meeting.
I certainly recently on these issues so they had a meeting it went -- longer than expected but everyone coming out of the meeting if you believe them they said.
Unproductive and I and I do you think -- I was in the discussion before about not the meeting was characterized.
Cordial but -- productive unproductive.
They -- at a meeting that is stressful and productive.
If and basically I -- they have to get in a room and just.
Hash it out one way or the other now with the debt limit I don't think that's gonna happen any time soon because that deadline is now October 17 the government is shattered.
And both Democrats and Republicans I'm not done capital are fine without a minute they say of course ultimately I don't want this shut down Bob -- law but.
They think that one deal is now better than two Democrats used to say they'd rather have two separate deals now they're fine with one big deal can they ever get a -- that's a question.
Yad very big question that ain't it does seem ball that they -- the Republicans are taking.
I'll shouldering most of the blame for this.
In the public view at the moment do you see that continuing the way this is playing out.
In all likelihood it probably does continue that way I I think that Republicans either playing a very difficult and in some ways I think they're playing well because they're at least they're looking very busy they're passing a flurry of bills and I dare the Democrats are saying now and -- yesterday.
A bit of a pivot from Democrats is that the White House called for the meeting.
Harry Reid offered.
Some type both.
Kind of olive branch to speaker Boehner that he would work on tax reform it really wasn't substantive offer but it was that it was moving away from that.
Kind of know we're not going to do anything until you pass a clean government funding bill so.
I think Democrats there it kind of -- that maybe the no negotiation thing wasn't quite working.
And they want to say all right what -- willing to talk about but but overall.
Are -- -- it there and dominate as a top -- -- guys Tea Party guys he's got the centrist Republicans like Peter King.
Who are -- saying that they're gonna ban together with about twenty Republicans and vote down one of these bills is coming to the house floor in the coming days or maybe next week.
They wanted to and right now but well whether they'll be able to band together to get enough votes to earth to form a kind of partnership with Democrats remains to be seen but but speaker -- I mean.
A lot of Republicans say what's the end game here had a we get out of this and and we don't have a lot of answers on.
Yet and it does is third do you see any way.
I speak debate that comes out of this looking anything -- -- than somebody who in the woods of a lot of Democrats was held hostage.
By the Tea Party -- -- of his father.
And they have been in tough positions before Jonathan but not like this and there was that government shut down possibility in 2011.
The budget control act the debt ceiling fight of two -- eleven.
Was very intense but Boehner claimed he got 90% of what he wanted he did pretty well in those two negotiations more recently it's been tough -- speaker Boehner the fiscal cliff with a complete debacle.
He tried to move a bill.
There was a rebellion couldn't get that done.
This he actually want to go and a different way and that Ted Cruz house Republicans who -- what kind of while working with that cruise almost every day it seems.
Said no we don't like that -- lets -- -- -- to take his strategy so this is the defining moment of speaker Boehner is career mom and it could get ugly.
-- damn well it's already got ugly and I think.
In many ways Bob I -- -- you know the language that way there is well.
Com and has been quite extraordinary just sort of play one clip from -- congressman George Miller Democrat of California.
I listen to this and -- told about it.
Did you think about the parks when you voted to cut the shut down the government.
Did you think about the impact.
The gentleman from Montana yesterday came to the -- and seven it's hurting the local economy the gentleman from California David said that the crowds around Yosemite.
Would be thinking about that when he voter gradually to shut down the government.
He was prepared to sacrifice the local economy.
They weren't prepared to sacrifice the -- around Yosemite what -- -- sonic Jihad against Americans benefit getting access to health care.
-- G hot against American citizen as citizens getting access to health -- and I mean we shouldn't pretend that the strong language is only been on the pop.
All all Democrats it's on both sides but really I mean this is this strikes me as a as lower than low ball when you when we start getting -- back kind of language.
Yeah and -- that president's top advisors also -- compared it to to terrorism and and I watched that exchange yesterday and house Republican on the floor Mike Simpson who -- managing -- debate.
Almost called I said.
He should call for those words to be stricken from the record and that's something that goes on in the house.
But he was immediately offended by it and we've seen these comparisons that you -- been on both sides compared it to the American revolution.
9/11 the rhetoric is an all time high -- but the tensions are also an all time high so.
But it but certainly I think a lot of Democrats Republicans are shaking their heads at some of their colleagues.
Who are using -- to -- doesn't really help the debate.
Yes I -- and it does.
-- that everybody is playing politics with this -- and I guess that I mean it's it's plainly obvious.
That this is is -- -- back 2014.
And even maybe 2016.
As it is about what happens to funding the government this month next month goal or IA at the stopped -- -- fourteen.
Yet it's always funny politics what -- one side says well the other -- -- politics.
And then that's -- playing politics there they're pointing the finger.
And -- we seen that from both sides and and honestly.
They're the reason is is that these guys have not been able to -- to strip strike a deal is because the last election -- Democrats did well -- Obama won a second term.
Democrats picked up seats but it was as semi status quo election I mean.
We still have carried a majority leader we still have Boehner as -- -- it was to have Obama as a president.
And their relationships.
Have been severely strained over the last couple years Reid and Boehner did not get along -- -- state actually had a good working relationship.
-- that's eleven that has soured so.
-- I don't know how this play -- I mean this is this is going to be.
-- to be very -- and I also think Jonathan that October 17 deadline while both parties want to avoid.
Debt fiasco I think they could go beyond that it could go to 1819 point and I think the stock market -- that really starts to get.
Consistently bad battle move members to get -- -- the end that it didn't -- -- Have that very firmly in the forefront of their minds ball right now on the hill I mean you know these people as well as anybody I think really thinking about that.
They do you think about that a lot actually in 2008 when they had the first part bill the first bailout and it failed on the house floor.
And and the stock market tumble nearly 800 points since that time.
They've never had a big fiscal bill that's gone to the house or senate floors while the markets are open.
They have consistently said OK -- let's -- -- vote after the markets close so they are thinking about that what they're thinking about for a one case because so many people.
Lost so much money 2008 in their in their retirement.
They do think about that but at the same time.
They are they are dug in right now and I think it would have to be a huge drop to get this the -- to get it is just so far apart right.
All right out ball before I let you go the that the most important question on my mind as from the man who knows everything in DC is on my Redskins gonna come back from the bye week about a team.
I think so I think they showed signs I mean their season was on the brink and they were down against the raiders.
I tell you know the next W Angelo as another schedule next couple games are key.
Because after that there's -- it's really tough to the next games against Dallas I think that's almost a must win enough for the Redskins.
Yeah I think you're absolutely right above can -- managing editor of the hill it has been a pleasure and an education -- -- -- weekly the past three years well.
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I've -- -- all right thanks so much Bob Cusack managing editor of the hill and check -- the hill dot com.
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