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I'm ready to negotiate with -- on anything.
I don't think any one party has a monopoly on wisdom.
But you don't negotiate by putting a gun to the other person said.
Or worse yet by -- put a gun to the American people said by threatening to shut down.
Yesterday's meeting at the White House but frankly wasn't particularly encouraged.
The president basically called us -- down there and -- she's not interested -- and negotiated.
There was essentially a negotiation about not negotiated.
But now we hear -- campaigning today in Rock Hill.
Rather than sitting down together funds -- All.
Well day three heading into day four.
Of the government shut down.
And take a look at the new Fox News polls the president's approval rating actually.
Ticking up and then you see most responsible for the government shut down Republicans I speak about 125%.
Prez Obama 24%.
Tea Party or 600 -- seventeen Democrats -- senator -- 8%.
And then -- is it 20% now take a look at the president's job approval ratings and they actually take up a little bit from September.
Two now we're back with the panel.
Jason what about this -- and that.
Is it possible to see a scenario.
Where speaker Boehner has an exit grant -- that'd.
That there is a big deal in the works that ties that continuing resolution to shut down with the debt ceiling.
And it all has rolled into one big deal.
That seems to be where they're headed based on the latest reports out today but even that is going to take presidential leadership and I don't see it.
I would I watched that speech that the president seem to be having a really good time -- I mean he was enjoying himself.
He was campaigning as senator McConnell said he was out there taking pot shots at the opposition.
He was talking about not negotiating digging -- all the rhetoric was there on a campaign style speech you really seem to be enjoying himself.
But -- the fact of the matter is the buck does stop with.
It but for his leadership and lack of leadership.
We are you know we wouldn't be.
In this position that were in today I think that polling that you -- show reflects that.
Maybe the White House internal polling is gonna come around to that as well what.
If we are headed towards a deal that combines.
Continuing resolution with the that's who it would still take presidential leadership and this president doesn't seem to be up to the mosque every.
Well I think it's easy to focus on sort of the faux outrage sound -- Democrats in the grandstanding by the president everything that.
You can't find a Republican -- -- -- -- the planets because they're living in an hour to hour freefall.
They got they walked -- -- shut down for the Democrats backed away and let them walk into they have no idea how to get out of it.
They literally will admit that the Obama care.
Defund plot was a diversion a new thing that sprung out of nowhere the blind -- most members.
And now official site for the speaker because how's -- gonna get a concession on obamacare when he's actually just trying to reach for grand bargain to get out of default.
Yes it's -- would be great to have a deficit reduction it would be great to have Medicare reform it would be great.
-- if John Boehner can pull that off that would be what people -- waiting for for years.
At this point there's no strategy to -- the deal so you say is your golden -- the deal.
And just roll it into that -- -- -- have -- yes that's the goal what's the plan we have no idea.
And you know when -- gets default which is which would be unprecedented and cataclysmic effect not just us but you know economies around the world.
That needs a plan that's not funny so they need to find one I think if you're -- Republican and you think this is okay -- head examined if you want the Republican Party.
To straighten itself out.
And be ready for prime time in 2016 you can't think to.
-- good catcher spot to Jason's point about the president he has said he's not negotiating on the that's.
But how does -- not negotiate but then negotiate.
And give speaker Boehner a W or an exit.
Right right and you've heard comments -- read comments from White House officials in the administration official saying basically the president needs to find a way to negotiate without actually looking like he's negotiating just as you suggest but I think the idea that that this is going to to turn into some big deal that will produce some grand bargain.
Fantasy that's insane to think that that's what's gonna happen here it's definitely true that.
That the continuing resolution fight and -- -- -- gonna come together but that's because of time not because of strategy.
The idea that you're gonna take this intractable position where both sides have to have dogging him.
Aren't even at the point where they're -- president Jay Carney today said we're not negotiating on the CR we're not negotiating on the debt ceiling.
We're negotiating I -- obamacare -- yeah it is that's and deal I what I get all of these comments right but where is the yet nobody.
There's a reason we can't tell you -- because you know I talked I talked to ten different people on Capitol Hill and nobody can come up with a plan people could say well I've got this you know this.
Don't know what doesn't kill you know why -- about the president's not -- and you can say it's it's -- he's a failed leader but.
And I think it's irresponsible when you're flirting with default John Boehner said today to several Republicans I will not allow the country to default.
You know it's Democrats -- why give him something he's gonna fold.
He's been so you look he's been let you guys -- that -- we and then you get strong push back from leadership offices about.
The idea that Peter said something new that he broke new ground by saying I'm not gonna let this default.
Yeah I think that there's a New York Times story Washington Post story that then he's telling this to Republicans.
That's an old story I don't think there's anything new.
What is happening on the record just think he's driving a cart running because he still thinks he has the upper hand -- -- people he looks at the ultimate movie season divided opposition Casey's attempt Chris correction and a MS and the John -- -- He says the opposition about it -- also -- us at the end of the day the Republicans do not have the votes in the senate.
To work -- well.
So he thinks he's playing operating from a position of strength that speech today is not the kind of speech -- give.
When you're trying to bring the parties together for a deal that is -- that is -- both thing.
-- -- speech.
And very un presidential and not really up to the seriousness of what this country is facing.
Start so I'm actually not hearing any possibility there's just -- and -- Right out.
If -- did their situation is very fluid so anything could change within six hours or twelve hours right I think it's pretty clear at this point that absent some.
New initiative from the president this -- gonna go on for a while we're in this for awhile.
-- -- but the president isn't it there's a report update of the president believes that he's going to re order the power in Washington between the branches with this exercise.
Break the fever and uses.
-- chassis that's it for the panel.
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