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-- lot of those spirited debate I Lauren Green -- was in correspondent for Fox News Channel.
Well it's while rhythmic music experience went hip hop beats the holy scriptures.
Grammy nominated Christian rapper flame is we just released his seventh album.
And he's no ordinary musician he has a degree and biblical counseling.
And is working on a masters at southern seminary in -- joins me now with his unique perspective on using rap and hip not to share the gospel this very -- -- We -- we have Christian artists.
And you know pop Christian artist but I've never met one who actually is studying.
You know biblical.
Issues I mean this is really amazing look what came first the the biblical counseling the academia or in the music.
Well the -- that first so I just I love the experience that music offers.
You can go through the imagination -- -- go under the radar in a way that you wouldn't and -- lecture style.
So -- not just you know was imposed by music.
I wanted to contribute back when I was informed by and then academia and later as I wanted to be more skilled at communicating.
A Christian -- through my music.
Well it's also why did both at the same -- why -- you know he's sundown its gonna become of him minister -- going to be a musician with you know some.
What -- both.
When I think about hip hop on their profits a portrait of the world.
And people all over the globe are resonating with his youth culture.
And I wanted to be able to speak to them.
From an authoritative perspective and offer hope offer insight.
Into deep seated issues and saw the relevance of an -- book the Christian Bible I want to bring those two aspects together.
Very dizzy I want to play a little bit of you're new -- albums Caldwell flights take a listen.
As could be easing -- in the this is called all in.
And -- inspiration for this outlook was I believe the second Peter won three yes right yes I actually when I pulled an -- his divine power has given us everything we need for -- -- -- in this throughout our knowledge of -- all -- by his own -- witness.
Yeah how did that inspire you why was that that -- Inspirational -- -- because I -- what the Bible is arguing is god has equipped us you know the Christian.
With every aspect that we need to live a successful holy Christian life and even for the non Christian who may feel like I've been dealt a bad hand in life.
He's introducing them to a new hand the highest hand which is the royal flush so that was a great metaphor to sync up with that passage.
To invite people to receive.
This highest and -- like from about themselves and isn't alone but obviously the poker.
Got to force the idea here at royal flush.
-- royal flush -- -- absolutely so any game of poker if you have a royal flush you have a team that Jack the -- McCain and -- All in -- -- if you have that set of hands.
You wind again.
I'm so rapping about that I -- -- that things like what god has done for the Christian.
In Christ so we have the highest hand -- -- thought it -- be a great way to communicate that idea as a metaphor -- -- the -- time.
You know you have a really and -- Being blatantly honest dysfunctional about where have you -- and -- -- -- was an addict yeah -- schizophrenic.
Battling depression equipment gang infested environment how did you kind of escape all of that.
Then -- I had -- people around me though we're concerned about me hey be there where it.
Curriculum and extra activities I was able to be a part of the kind of distract me from the madness but nevertheless you still in golf minutes and as -- aspect evidently it was normal.
So you embrace parts of it -- then ultimately my grandmother with the strongest pillar.
In my -- -- concerning christianity should really help me understand the world and how to process ideas and comp compare and contrast right from wrong.
And when she passed -- that really.
Got my attention and kind of shift the direction in my life.
While and working people check out that to happen music video yes indeed you can go to our website which is clear site's music dot com site S I GHT.
And all of my music -- material was there as -- to mention that updates.
Blame and the album -- -- Caldwell plus thank you so much as a great thank you for having -- -- and thank you very much for joining spirited debate -- break.
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