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He's actually -- our national security nuclear talks with Iran and six world powers under way right now in Iran's deputy foreign minister just came out moments ago Allen says.
It's just too early to say any progress has been made the definition of progress of course is one that moves.
Our next guest says it's hard to take Iran at its word marquee would be executive director of the foundation for defense of democracies and our great to have you.
A lot of news is happening today so we appreciate you rolling with us as well.
We've talked a lot about talks and negotiations -- the -- This time seems to be different what are the stakes of these talks today.
-- the stakes -- that Iran is moving forward aggressively with its nuclear weapons program it's about eight months away from having what we call undetectable nuclear breakout.
Which means Iran can weaponized uranium for a bomb so quickly that western intelligence.
And UN west weapon inspectors couldn't detect the break out so we've got eight months and we've got to continue negotiating with the Iraq -- the same time.
I just added these are masters of nuclear deception and then try to prolong talks to get to a nuclear.
Bomb when -- thinks he talks about in a recent Washington Post piece is making sure that we keep the sanctions.
On and keep that pressure on there's a little bit of a -- -- to the government shut down.
Marco Rubio is is talking on the senate floor he has an op -- today in USA today and he says we need to do that as well.
But there is another round of sanctions that are stuck in the senate mark aren't there tell it's a little bit about that and how important those are.
To the -- are -- happening right now.
Well right -- I mean the real question is -- -- run out of money before after the United States runs out of money so it's absolutely critical that.
We get our government back we're working and I and our folks working on this issue.
The bill -- stock in the senate and the stock in the senate because the administration has indicated to senate Democrats they don't want to move the bill.
While we are negotiating with -- -- -- clearly.
It's only sanctions that have brought the Iranians to the table and it's only massively enhanced sanctions are getting give us the negotiating leverage.
We need to conclude -- purely peaceful nuclear deal I think the folks on the hill the perception is this bill needs to move and move aggressively and move quickly.
For the Iran is to really take notice.
That's a senator rubio says is while there's those that disagree that also agree with the administration that.
We'll come off a little bit and maybe we can talk more when things that you mention your your article of that.
Abandoning the nuclear program for Iran would be a huge humiliation.
For the ruling class what are the keys negotiation is making your adversary look good to whoever -- serving how can we.
Make sure that Iran saves space.
But also abandons its nuclear program which is our our goals -- and goal.
Well -- I I think they have the issue of saving face has really been overstated I mean this is -- regime.
Via -- supreme leader that presidents the Revolutionary Guards have been committed for thirty years to building a nuclear weapon -- -- it's going to.
Crack their nuclear well is that they're put the fundamental choice between a nuclear bomb in the survival of their regime and so economic sanctions that cause economic collapse.
Are what gonna give us the negotiating leverage to conclude a peaceful -- I think we've got to make Iran understand that it can have a civilian nuclear energy program and by its nuclear fuel from abroad like nineteen other countries.
But it cannot have nuclear weapons it cannot be in contravention of the UN Security Council resolutions and it has to stop the centrifuges spinning.
And the uranium enriching if we're gonna take this government -- its work.
It's an important story we don't want to forget even I daylight today -- thanks so much as always it would check back in with you.
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