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-- guest says he is frustrated because senator Harry Reid and President Obama keep moving the goalposts when it comes to negotiating a deal joining me now Republican senator from South Carolina.
Lindsey Graham senator thank you very much for -- -- thanks -- you did us an interview with the Politico yesterday in which you said and I quote.
The president is a pathetic leader and easily engaged in the last couple of days you're not one to mince words -- that's left.
-- are not that -- you know.
Dislike the president but he has shown very little leadership the time when the country needs it the most.
From Republican point of view we created unreasonable expectations we have 46 senators she needs sixty votes in the senate.
To do big things we have a slim majority in the house.
And President Obama is still president so for us to suggest to the American people.
That we could defund obamacare or delay it for year by shedding them the government I think was unrealistic but having said that.
The president's response was I won't negotiate -- he will raise the debt ceiling.
And you will open up the government that -- conditions -- just an immature response.
And Harry Reid twice has moved the goal post when it came to about -- deal in the senate so here's where -- -- on a cloudy Sunday afternoon.
I'm not going to vote for any deal coming out of the senate.
That doesn't have a reasonable chance of getting a majority of house Republicans understanding.
Here's a bridge too far let's let's let's take a break and listen in to you just mentioned senate majority leader Harry Reid he's speaking from the senate floor right now they just gaveled in let's listen it.
-- He paid for two wars costing about two trillion dollars.
-- borrowed money.
Uranium 400 billion dollar -- for Medicare prescription drug plan.
And madam president.
They -- the nation's credit card for years and years and lots of stuff.
-- That a president there was one conversation on one -- the Sunday shows today.
Instead we -- trying to break the caps that and the budget.
-- And we know a little fun little.
House and senate majority leader Harry recent opening remarks from the senate for any reaction to what you just heard -- while you can't say fiscal responsibility of about -- Harry Reid this is.
President Obama since he's been present for the last five years is added more debt to the national debt and almost all presence combined he's on pace.
To -- that you started at ten point six -- us now sixteen point six or sixteen point eight.
So after Reid is warning the Republicans in the senate to agree to bust the budget caps a surprise for opening up the government.
We're not going to do that the one thing that I think all senators and congressman should do.
Before we open up the government is put ourselves and Obama care under the same terms and conditions as every American.
The Office of Personnel Management at the White House made a ruling that members of congress are exempt from being in -- -- -- I think that ruling is -- legal.
He's certainly not leadership so what I'm telling senator Reid and every other Republican and Democrat.
When this debacle is over and it will be one day.
All of us every member of congress should be in -- -- -- care under the same conditions as every other American.
No better no worse to me -- minimum we should be doing.
One of the great ironies of the Republican quest to two.
Defund and then delayed the implementation of obamacare.
A fool's errands and you might send -- those are two strong words.
But the irony of it is that it blocks -- what would have been a huge story covering every newscast local national and every front page.
That the rollout of obamacare which was disastrous by any man.
Here's the good news from our news from Republican point of view Obama care is the disaster we predicted it would be as bad for the country but from a political point of view.
The last twelve days have been a nightmare for those trying to sign up for -- Obama -- been a complete fiasco and say here.
But instead of having headlines about people can't sign up for -- obamacare the system doesn't work.
It's about the shut down -- six months from now we won't be talking about was shut down.
If Republicans will embrace reality get this behind us.
Will be talking about a fail concept called obamacare and Democrats the middle of next summer we'll come to -- and try to get some relief.
From this fiasco called Obama care if we don't screw it up now.
They're there is this perception and I I think and reality is well of of a fundamental.
Inability for this White House to negotiate with Republicans -- on in either house.
This was illustrated in a in a really great piece that I read this week -- which did not get a lot of attention written by.
Wash the White House correspondent for the Washington examiner.
She was writing about Miguel Rodriguez who is not a household name he he is the White House liaison to congress a hugely important position she says quote.
Even prominent Democrats say they don't know what senate armed -- -- committee chairman Carl Levin.
He may have met him but can't recall when asked what he thinks about not -- his -- -- the represented John Larson of Connecticut.
Turned to an -- to ask.
This speaks volumes senator well I know -- but here's the problem Ronald Reagan said -- Tip O'Neill to solve Social Security moment of crisis.
In a bipartisan fashion.
Clinton Saddam was news to find a way to end the -- in nine -- 96.
This president's refusal to negotiate being a -- at a time the country.
Needs his leadership the most is a pattern that needs to stop there's plenty of blame to go around we overplayed our hand -- Republicans.
But the democratic response of trying to jam that's basically.
And use this moment to increase spending at a time when the -- that the federal government.
Is spending more than next generation can afford to pay is not the right response but again I just want to -- the Republican Party can survive this.
If we can embrace reality there are many ways to attack -- -- I along with senator brass are going to introduce legislation when this.
Government shutdown is over that would allow every state if they chose to opt out of the individual employer mandate under obamacare.
-- South Carolina if she chooses to come up with a better plan -- -- different plant.
They're so many ways to attack Obama care but to my Republican colleagues.
Let's embrace reality we can't -- delay at this moment we don't have the political leverage.
Let's keep finding Obama care but let's open up the government in the -- should lead.
It's important that Paul Ryan come up with a solution that's conservative in nature and send it to the senate.
Put Harry Reid in a box rather than the senate putting the house and the possibility -- of your legislation there basically to put the senate majority leader in a box it would not pass in a way that was it now I think Paul could find a way along with John Boehner to open up the government.
With some good government reforms attached.
-- making sure we don't have future shutdowns.
Like making sure that every member of congress -- in obamacare on the same conditions of every other American and fixing some of the bipartisan concerns about -- -- If you sent that -- -- the senate.
It really would put Harry Reid on the defensive the house is offense the -- this defense the best we can do in the senate -- Republicans.
-- block an increase in standing.
And block some of the bad ideas that they want to push but if you wanna go on offense it has to come from the house and the last thing I want to see happen.
Is a bad deal passed the senate that goes to the house.
Where a majority of Democrats -- -- -- in a minority of Republicans -- part.
Putting John Boehner speakership at risk nobody in the country should warn -- -- John Boehner speaker.
What happens if he does lose that position what's the alternative -- are -- looking I don't know who would follow John but it would be a huge mistake for the Republican Party.
To put the speaker of the house who's been a wonderful leader during tough times.
Following a policy that has no chance -- success.
If I thought -- if I could if our team we would -- to replace and repeal Obama -- we just don't have the political leverage in it would really be heartbreaking.
To follow strategy this quite frankly unrealistic -- mourn the victims of that strategy the F fine man called John Boehner.
Democrats are very fond of pointing out to the polls these days and and how much damage has been done to the Republican Party but.
We're still more than a year out from the mid term elections when even remember this -- if we're Smart.
Bob and government shut down toward thirteen will be old news and will be talking about the flaws and obamacare -- 2014.
But 60% of Americans want to replace every member of congress to my democratic colleagues.
If you think this is working well for -- you need to look at the polls are.
Senator Lindsey Graham South Carolina thank you -- -- -- to agree to Cesar.
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