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While back -- Hannity now throughout the entire Obama -- shut down the White House and they -- left wing cohorts used every dirty old worn out trick in the book.
To try and demonize conservatives and members of Tea Party movement but.
That Americans see past the lies and the low blow rhetoric Carl what Frank Luntz is in our nation's capital has bipartisan focus group of voters frank didn't.
They see through the strapping bombs on extortionist -- -- Blackmailing that they heat they get -- they cut through that rhetoric.
-- I feel like you just pushed the source on your computer.
I don't know -- -- to you're going to be with what they have to say because.
All of you on the count of three.
Who do you blame most for what happened over the past few weeks you ready 12.
I don't here give -- -- word or phrase to describe congress.
Spoiled out of control toward babies.
Knuckle heads petulant give -- a word or phrase to describe Barack Obama principal.
-- -- I'm bending uncompromising.
There doesn't seem to be any content do -- do you blame them all -- yes it's.
This is important question how many he would throw them all out if you could all of them.
Why because they are working -- they are making any sense they just fighting.
And how are they supposed to work together compromise everybody's got to give up something you throw them all out.
Now because they are not representing what the majority of the people want and what the majority people want well the majority of people want a government that works they want laws that they believe van.
And I guess really there is to divide in this country so that's -- -- problem.
Congress of both houses are in need of structural reform I think Olympia Snowe is put forth an idea.
Which really makes a lot of sense that they should work.
Two weeks on -- one week off.
Instead of having six weeks off for recesses.
And not really getting anything done on -- current three -- week during.
I think the senate terms need to be shorter.
They are too complacent for this year but none of that's gonna happen I think -- -- those structural reforms have to go back to the states and get rid of the gerrymandering -- -- -- -- congress it's more reflective of the country -- -- I wanna poll here who if he had to choose between the president and congress.
Who blames congress more.
Who blames the president -- Is anyone here voted for Mitt Romney which -- when congress more.
-- -- -- -- -- -- Because they should devote as the law of the land in the easiest way to get Obama can't go Larry it's just to let it work because it's completely dysfunctional and it will collapse on its own.
-- Trying to -- one they don't want to ask everybody we're we're scrolling on the bottom of the screen tonight throughout the hour.
The increased premium cost 45 of the fifty states dramatic increases for 27 -- -- -- year -- That was put up there obamacare the president promised certain things about Obama care 2500 dollar savings.
It's gonna be on average 7500.
Dollar increase a year.
It's costing three times what the president told us it would cost a lot of people can't keep their own doctors.
To most people's agree that understand that this was is nothing like the way it was sold to them.
Yes you agree -- that yes yes it was a bait -- switch program but nobody knew what was gonna happen until they -- Well I mean they're the whole when he was running for president he was you know debating against -- Hillary Clinton and John Kerry John Allen Edwards he he criticize them right attacking us for their support of an individual mandate.
Then he goes to the president signs went into law he defends it in the Supreme Court and then he's willing to -- the -- to government down in order to keep it so you say he shut the government down just to keep the law on the books I believe so -- I'm not negotiating over my signature law so they.
David there's no doubt that the the cost of health care is going down in their bid to become the obamacare or straw changes they're going I don't know where in society captain.
-- so many people are.
Are reporting that their premiums have gone up hundreds and thousands of got nothing and that's costs total health care that.
It cost only gonna go away and went down as well so it goes both -- Hollywood.
-- -- -- -- -- -- see it ought to make it true.
Well all of -- second I just wanted to point -- The moment that you've got to Obama care.
Is when the group -- drops it down the moment that you talk about health care is when everything.
The bottle so the reality is freedoms -- got a way to break but I promise we're gonna come back to but 45 a fifty states premiums are going up and then going up dramatically.
And that seems to have gotten lost and all of this.
But -- people got to suffer and has nothing like what they were promised but.
Welcome back what -- a great focus group little more Franken is bipartisan focus group after the break.
I want to back to Hannity to continue with Frank Luntz and his focus group bipartisan group of average America's friend -- one question and finally take it from here.
I and very concerned.
About where it was seventeen trillion in debt.
Ninety trillion in unfunded liabilities that we're gonna have to pay out obligations we put on the books.
Well rob and our kids blind -- literally every working American -- 123000.
There's a plan out there that's called the penny plant.
And I wanted to that I think it's a great solution.
Cut one cent.
Of every dollar that government's gonna spend every year for five years how many would support that idea I'm just curious because it's bipartisan group for.
But that's charm -- got almost everybody but Mike.
Wants to challenge you on some -- my god do.
You throughout a couple facts concerning the cost.
Of the Affordable Care Act and the people involved in my question to ask where did you get those statistics from there have been a number of statistics that.
Opinion on the source they've been conflicting and I don't Forbes magazine it's easy to -- Forbes magazine says it's the -- back to the average increases premiums going to be 7500 dollars and is it actually acts that Heritage Foundation the foundation -- -- -- -- the -- in the program they analyze the state by state -- twenty -- -- -- 27 year old adult and for fifty year old adult.
And I am more anecdotes and I could possibly get in this whole segment but I wanna give -- back to frank.
-- -- I think what we're missing is the lawless.
Flawed fundamentally dishonest basic premise but the -- -- -- -- as the saying they were expecting thirty million people young people.
Or so to sign up for.
-- these people don't necessarily.
Think they need it don't want -- -- -- finding -- -- so that's their choice -- have MI -- don't have expressed grave and a new entitlement program that's pass with one party support.
To be accepted by the entire country you just can't do it.
He had the chance to compromise on obamacare was was created the very beginning and he said no it's this way or the highway and what was Nancy Pelosi is quote.
You have to pass its analysis -- and -- And how could it have been -- last.
If all the people who sit in congress who've had an opportunity to review the law to look at all of the various hotels are entitlement in -- -- Including a strain -- -- I'm not limited to the fact that it was -- hailed by the Supreme Court.
So certainly these are people who were bright enough to look at some of the issues with respect I honestly believe that he had given just something to the Republicans -- the -- -- -- it.
-- -- it is not clearly that I -- Understand this this cannot.
Continue to be about him giving something to the Republicans this about is this law good for the people of this -- right.
A matter of probably everything I'm -- -- Democrats -- question -- can't can we come we as Americans afford this somehow that just.
Wait until you're -- by the policy get well dropped a policy when you get sick again by a policy.
I would guess I have a question that is the wrong and a call Kevin you all voted for Obama can America afford.
His health care plan over the long term you know how how were an -- country.
I mean I'd like.
Social security and Medicare it's gonna have to be -- to -- they're even talking about with the entitlement.
Changes that are are gonna have to be done to Social Security it's gonna have to change so of course it's given time it's your generate I think.
The law and order a volunteer bends the cost curve and so the premiums are cheaper than they otherwise would being grown slowly that it niacin that 45 of the fifty states.
Are raising their premiums because the care that is given is higher than the -- it was given -- high deductible plans that are.
Lower costs in general violation on he's in my year and he's yelling at me no they're not clear of Morgan thanks -- the -- the sand was this just could -- And is it not with the -- this is what this is based on the Republican plan from the nineties.
That's not choose the deductibles are going higher premiums are going hire people -- not -- get the care they want it's -- -- people don't realize how bad this is.
-- really don't.
If you compare this to the system that we've already had which has been a disaster for a long time we have the 43 best health care in the world would play out ladies -- -- the president's health care plan -- -- -- And how many voted for Obama raise your hands.
-- what does -- is it even some people who voted for Barack Obama don't support this health care plan.
This debate -- over just because the government open and the members -- gone home this debate's gonna continue our frank tell everybody thank you a great group tonight and we appreciate them being a part of.
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