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-- the show you talked about Luke Russert from NC talking about and how the media portrays the religion saying that there's a lot of Smart and that it isn't covered appropriately.
And I agree with that and I think there's a certain amount of condescension.
In the way mainstream media many.
Members of mainstream media -- people of faith but I wouldn't go so far to say as as Russert did.
That and some of us in this business come after -- -- why people.
Completely disagree with you I think that.
Even in the coverage of the Catholic Church.
There is a lot of that cover coverage of evangelicals.
Catholic Church have you looked at how much favorable coverage pulled for has -- -- -- looked at the last fifty years of coverage of Catholic Church not exactly positive.
Okay well the Catholic Church doesn't exactly deserve positive -- during the years of sex abuse scandals child abuse scandals that were covered up for years.
And and and there is you know if you want to -- it.
You cover the Catholic Church in the bad times shouldn't you covered -- tested.
Well I mean this isn't just about Catholics -- I think that there is a by a I think it starts in the -- you do not -- crosses you do not see.
Stars of David -- you don't really talk about religion in newsrooms and I think that.
That plays in in news judgment I think that's -- -- -- I think a lot of people in -- -- while I certainly I would agree.
Especially in the -- -- -- -- a lot of evangelicals working for big news organizations that there are people who go to church every Sunday go to synagogue every Saturday it's not like they are anti religious I think there's a cultural divide.
Between the people in the business when it comes to what may be seen as a sensitive topic because you can very easily alienate members of the -- I think it's great discussion on -- my hat's off to Luke for bringing it up I think that we need more of this kind of discussion about religion.
In meetings but what I wanna come back to -- Francis which you easily you very good -- clintons is subject.
Here is a guy who -- that there -- negative coverage I didn't necessarily a deftly changed the subject of how we.
But it seems to me that because -- Francis and I know the what Riley said and they do you agree is that he's got more sympathetic coverage because he has proved to be.
Taking a more tolerant approach on issues like gays and abortion but this is a guy.
Who talked to reporters on his plane.
Whether he -- is making a huge he is very -- that no other pro that's correct OK so if the media were hostile to religion in the Catholic Church.
Then they wouldn't be so terribly enamored of new Pope.
That's true -- I said.
Earlier that if you take that -- coverage.
You -- -- talking about a period of months now and if you look at it in the broader context of Howell media cover religion.
It's not -- You know I'm one of the biggest problems is is that there isn't enough coverage -- coverage of religion and New York Times the Washington Post had a very good religion -- but how many television religious.
News service does but television now you know actually here in Washington Greta cruise.
At the at ABC station does cover religion.
-- -- you know I think it's probably one of the few she's one of the few.
Is there an effort I would say that the that that there's too much focus on more extreme voices in religion whether it's you know some of these televangelists who got into trouble with scandals.
Or people who are made because -- -- They say provocative things they're ready to stand for -- and you'll hear a lot of the sort of ordinary.
Mainstream Catholics Jews.
Buddhist Hindu Muslims they don't tend to break into -- and I think that's a problem.
Well it's man -- stock -- I mean if there's something bad going on.
You know we're gonna we're gonna hear about it well I think assumption that we should talk about more and we better next week -- war after the --
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