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That segment tonight a first apparent so for a Vice President Dick Cheney in the no spin zone and left two segments with mr.
Cheney this evening second -- we'll deal with his new book call heart.
And American medical Odyssey about his stunning recovery.
From heart transplant heart disease but for segment deals in Iraq and Afghanistan some tax.
Iraq Americans killed in our country more than 4000 wounded more than 30000.
Iraq War which -- -- half years cost nearly a trillion dollars.
Afghanistan Americans K -- 87882.
US troops wounded close of 20000.
Cost of the war about three quarters of a trillion dollars so far.
Is expected most US forces be out of Afghanistan by the end of 2014.
You're now one of the chief architects of the Iraq and Afghanistan campaigns to change.
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Yes there is unfortunately -- mom very concerned about -- what I see is that it would appear below the violence has escalated significantly.
Home the surge that President Bush put in place in 07 and -- it was a very successful reduces the overall level of violence getting the Sunnis to -- them.
And then you know reawakening a -- -- Al Anbar Province -- There was never the follow on agreement negotiated which was always the intent and which we felt we had set up.
The end but the Obama administration can pursue it generated.
Pursue it because the -- authorities wouldn't identify.
They wouldn't give them.
They they wanted to try them themselves -- any misbehavior -- any accusations I think that's what the deal fell apart a little bit it's.
We have that debate in every country where we negotiate those agreements -- -- -- from all -- the -- it's always -- question -- -- we always insist -- retaining -- -- as we -- -- as we -- and that's exactly what we -- in this case.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Combat force similar what we have there before but it's there for training in answer to provide keep surely they don't have logistics intelligent right medical.
Do you think the Obama administration's -- -- -- -- the health.
And I exactly and we're paying the price now the Iraqis are paying the price what what are we get out of Iraq they'll let you Lou as America's role in it together and grown together it's easy to finger point they figure pointed you in and bush and -- only do that.
But we spend a trillion dollars on this with a lot of pain and suffering on the Miller American it would be kept it well.
Number beside Obama beside the tsunami and -- now what.
But remember what we were faced with in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 we had a lot of evidence they indicate.
That in fact al-Qaeda was trying to get their hands on weapons of mass destruction we had in Saddam Hussein a guy who had produced and used weapons of mass destruction.
Pillow and a and I supported in -- life you know and I don't I don't blame you.
View a Vice President Cheney or President Bush to do what she did I mean I'm not back back Monday Morning Quarterback but but what right now.
What we're dealing what are we get out of Iraq from all that blood and treasure when we get it.
What we gain and and my concern was then and it remains today is that biggest threat we face is the possibility of terrorist groups like al-Qaeda.
Equipped with weapons of mass destruction and nukes bugs -- gas that was the threat after nine elevenths.
And when we took down Saddam Hussein we eliminated -- -- there's a potential sources that.
McCain is back that's right but they wouldn't be if they followed up policies that we laid out -- -- left -- also didn't let me finish chart.
Terms of what we got out of it we took down Saddam -- a major source five days after we got Saddam Moammar Qaddafi announced he was in the -- isn't nuclear materials.
And he had centrifuges he had a weapons design yet uranium -- stopped and after we took care of that we -- Manning can -- Who is his major supplier of the father of the Pakistan program.
-- was run in a black market operation would put him out of this compare to three major sources of protect.
Well let's have -- weapons are -- -- -- com.
But right now Iraq looks to me and this is the the headline Washington Post -- nearly two years at the US troop withdrawal.
Racks -- in this of the deepening security crisis as an al-Qaeda affiliate -- a relentless campaign of attacks.
So while you're correct -- in -- bigger picture but I don't know if they're suffering and blood was worth it.
Well -- we've got a major problem in that part of the world it's not just Iraq it's also.
Danger in Afghanistan let's get to Afghanistan Iran.
That -- is.
Withdrawal of the United States and that's part of the world hasn't significantly diminish our contestants -- -- those events in Afghanistan you have a corrupt leader Karzai would you see that.
Correct corrupt I -- -- -- out of the -- in and to your right hand.
-- on in Afghanistan.
Nearly everybody -- but in your ride Karzai -- In my high Karzai was a guy who was there when we needed him.
-- who -- in the he's around and I don't -- got -- -- real bad guys at a time.
I don't wanna pass judgment to say he's -- is it okay if I do you can if you can't Maharashtra and you're not really come after me if I'd say that -- -- -- Able I'll give you pass.
It looks to me and correct me if I'm wrong that once the United States pulls most of our people out and we may pull them all out just like we didn't Iraq has -- not cooperating on a lot of different fronts.
-- -- to Taliban with Al qaeda's help gonna come in and make that country chaotic mess.
Not just Afghanistan.
Issue of the economist two or three weeks ago item cover -- -- said the new face of terrorism.
And -- inside it showed a map of ten different countries across North Africa from Mali Niger Nigeria all the way across -- that are now safe havens or sanctuaries if you will places where terrorist.
Al-Qaeda and al-Qaeda fellow travelers can find safe harbor and sanctuary far bigger part of the globe now that's vulnerable that kind of thing.
Training facilities and so forth and we ever face in the past.
The US withdrawal.
From that part of the world is is significantly diminished our capacity so that.
Whether we're trying to deal with the situation in Syria.
Where the situation in Iran they don't pay any attention and look at.
So again you have a policy difference with the Obama administration is that you wouldn't withdraw you'd stay.
But by staying we are paying so much money and a suffering on our military people is so high.
But again we're all Americans from all in this together and looks to me like the Taliban is gonna reconstitute and cause so much trouble in Afghanistan has -- Coming chaotic mess but the last time that solid -- took control and Afghanistan make.
Had bases that train 20000 terrorists and I think an -- that again -- -- in addition to nineteen.
Hijackers who came here with airline tickets and box cutters until 2000 about it I gotta put on to gonna do that again.
So what would just sit back and don't worry about it -- but I'm asking you know if if -- -- -- and they're gonna do it again as it seems likely they will very real danger that.
We get paid very well what are you get out of it if you withdraw and let that happen again bill.
We don't have the choice anymore if we ever did since certainly since 9/11.
-- back behind her oceans and seeing what goes over there doesn't matter to us it matters a hell -- a lot if there are a lot of terrorist bases and there are more now more areas.
Where they can be base than ever before and if there's major proliferation problem nuclear weapons and that also countries to step -- -- you guys this strain on our US military's unbelievable.
Well -- -- and on treasury.
-- -- he -- but if we had a presence over there if we've been able to continue the policies that we put in place.
If we've been able to work to keep government's establish governments that are stable Melinda didn't -- their own sovereign turf.
We -- much better off our file now we're -- more adversaries no longer fares on our allies no longer trust us.
Final question and real quick and we'll -- you book.
You're not optimistic that Afghanistan is going to be able fight it's -- about -- I hope they will be able to but I don't think it will unless there's a small group of American snares -- David treatments is settled and Pakistan's next door where -- we launched from -- get Osama bin Laden from Afghanistan.
We're two weeks base ourselves out of in terms of keeping track of what's going on Pakistan but you -- -- -- now that may be able to inhibit them at least in Afghanistan right all right we're gonna have more the vice president moma talk about a stunning recovery from heart disease UCL feisty as.
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