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Welcome to a spirited debate I'm Lauren Green Jeep was -- correspondent for Fox News Channel.
You know -- -- years ago controversial book made a wild claim that the media were becoming more and more hostile to christianity.
-- mainstream journalism had abandoned its Christian roots and the result was quote fear and loathing and a wide variety of journalistic legal ethical and economic problems.
Well that's a -- -- is now being updated and re released it's called the product won't press.
Conference confronting the anti Christian bias of the American news media and -- of warm -- Smith joins me now.
In studio and I should say that war -- that Marvin Olasky actually -- wrote the original book that's why haven't you updated it Marvin is.
Just not with us because he just couldn't make it equities in Uganda as a matter of fact even as we speak so he's out on a reporting trip which is what we do that world magazine we are.
But hopefully not just pundits but we do puts on the ground reporting that's where he is today so why isn't it -- that the book being updated.
Well it's several reasons Lauren if you said the book was written in 1988 this is the 25 anniversary edition.
And in 1988 there was only really one major cable news network which was the CN NY the Internet -- fond of saying -- just to clean -- now of course I.
There was not a lot of the kind of radio news national public radio which is now sort of a -- -- -- Radio news was a fledgling organization that time.
So we've just seen a lot of development.
Social -- other.
Ways and so it just became really obvious to us.
That the book was due for an update and then go betweens that the universe who was a great time to do that and -- years ago it sort of change lives of more importantly there was a lot of criticism that -- it's not that I write you know but from what -- event.
Well you know back to Bernie Goldberg over Google or -- or regular contributor to fox wrote a book called bias several years later back more than a decade later the kind of blew the lid on on.
On liberal bias in the these media.
And but Marvin was really prophetic in this in the sense that he talked about anti Christian bias which some of that is also liberal bias.
So it -- in 1988.
Lot of people were really focusing on them but I think today now 25 years later we see that a lot of what he said.
About what was going on in the mainstream media was in fact coming to pass in just one of the first ones to select one -- -- examples of the anti Christian bias in.
That injured as well a couple of examples and so we try to get at the is not as sort of you know red meat.
You know ideology but rather to take a more fact based in research based approach.
I just give you quick example.
Of a study that was actually -- in the first book.
Called the media he leaked by Robert and Linda -- in their -- -- -- Rothman.
Who it was able to identify that the mainstream media is well to -- left.
The an American public generally when it comes just a whole range of issues.
Not just abortion pornography homosexuality those types of issues that energy policy the role of government.
Those questions as well there the mainstream media tend to have views ideas.
Beliefs that are to the left of the population as a whole.
And now fast forward to 2002.
Men a felony Jim koppers in Virginia Tech pioneer and what's come to be known as media ecology -- another survey.
It said that not only is the media.
Are are are the media generally to the left of center but they also have a very narrow range of contacts in the -- they know who they know.
But they don't know this wide diversity.
And newsmakers on -- right especially in the Christian -- doing interesting -- -- just reading the introduction to the book and.
One of the things are focused on was a -- when I was in general of the school APV Associated Press he was the standard bearer for objective journalism and they were they actually.
Looked at eight.
And then this is -- more subtle about the -- used as well that's right did -- do what word everything from sort -- -- the micro level the use of words mean the word homosexual for example rarely -- appears.
In an AP story would you would be gay or same sex.
The that solid on the on for a pro lifer would really be called pro life he would be called.
-- -- -- -- -- abortion opponent.
So there's that micro level but there's also the more macro level that that gym card offers.
Revealed in his study which would be for example.
On using sources.
On the conservative and Christian side that tend to be more radical I would do my favorite example spread else they got the god hates -- guy at west -- back.
-- you know I've been involved in evangelical christianity for years and I personally know no one who shares his views.
If I -- -- Leahy is just the smallest fraction of the my -- of the minority.
Among people who hold that view.
And yet most of America knows who he is because he is often are quoted in the -- let me get the most extreme version that horizon and we can make must -- exactly right.
The other thing though is that what you're saying and I think this is very important point is that it -- Agassi as a because -- no longer believed in god.
There is really no standard for objectivity.
That they're used to be is that is that what we're getting yeah that's right we we we call that spiking the spiritual in prodigal press -- it was the the that debt that comes from the old idea that an editor used to spike a story that he didn't -- us in on that type setting high.
And he would put it on the spike in that would essentially kill the story.
Well the mainstream media tends to spike.
Bill of spiritual -- give you quick example you know we are a recording this on -- when -- anniversary of -- super storm.
Sandy whenever super store and seen the hit this part of the world new York and New Jersey.
A lot of faith based grassroots organizations sprung into action -- were enormously.
Effective crime in helping their neighbors showing love to their neighbors -- real practical ways.
However if you read the mainstream media in the couple of days after that.
You heard stories about FEMA whenever it for example the New York Stock Exchange came back on one after being several days off -- He was Mayor Bloomberg and represented different theme in a representative from the Obama administration on the about the ability to think what I'm laughing about these faith based grassroots organizations that did actually much more.
Effective work in those days Friday after super -- -- the.
That some of these big government could put the reason being that we -- just a much more pluralistic kind of society we have to we can't be you know.
Christianity -- kind of secular world make -- as we say.
It's got a different things first and -- it -- be that it has been church and the fourth estate -- -- well I think certainly that that is part of the argument that the others have -- but I would also argue that that there's this rich heritage.
Of Christian activism in this country.
And while certainly we've got to make space in a pluralistic society for all world views.
I think it's also important to understand and appreciate and to celebrate in many cases certainly we -- Christian journalists.
Can celebrate the contribution that the Christian worldview and those motivated by the Christian -- -- our culture.
-- with a book is called -- press confronting the anti Christian bias of the American news and very interesting because it has prospective over 28 right here's this is not a new book but it's an updated version but the cannot when he -- musical -- -- -- -- thank you very much for being on spirited right thank you Lauren.
And thank you.