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I welcome the Defcon three I'm KT Mack Brown we talked today with professor Raymond -- he's a professor.
Emeritus of the University of Michigan and the author of Arab rebels and Iranian dissidents.
Thank you so much for joining us.
You know win -- National Security Council you -- a lot of these same issues this unity coming up again today so we have the Iraqi.
Prime minister coming to Washington this week to talk to President Obama what should we make out -- that relationship and what you're likely to have.
Well Al-Maliki is in town he's causing -- huge traffic jam around DuPont Circle as we speak by the way.
And what does he was trying to do is trying to guess what Apache helicopters.
He's trying to get F sixteen aircraft -- United States.
But what is he giving -- return he's allowing.
The Iranian regime to sit and stand on the ground.
Arms into Syria and over air -- -- into -- now it.
It is -- case that.
Iraq doesn't have an air force that's -- one of the reasons and he wants that F -- but.
Trust me Kate he's not gonna try to use the F sixteens I gates -- -- McCain because he's kowtowing to an animated regime and in particular.
He's allowing the Iranian regime.
To dictate what happens in Iraq concerning.
The Iranian dissidents in Iraq their 52 that were men who were murdered seven of home -- work.
Seven -- taken as hostages I know some of these people they are decent people they were decent people and it's a crime against humanity.
Our -- here we are we with products -- -- war in Iraq and had a fast that had its downs.
We've now left Iraq and what do we got out of that ten years of war for we have a lot of American dead and injured and wounded -- -- -- as ones pro life.
It's cost us trillions of dollars and yet -- you're implying that now -- -- is really the cat's -- of Iran.
Well Iraq is the cat's -- of Iran but.
The good doctor theory says you've got to make an effort even though if you fail you've given it your best shot so.
You know one of the things that happened right before the Cold War began was.
Who lost -- of the Democrats got blamed for that because they really didn't put up much of an effort.
Who lost Iraq now it'll be.
It right now it's Nouri Al-Maliki because he's playing footsie with the Iranians he's not doing what he needs to do in order to.
Take care of the Iranian opposition in Iraq and thirdly and most with a very importantly he's going after his vice president who is a Sunni.
And causing these Sunni Shia split with in Iraq -- exacerbate so this is a big problem if if President Obama doesn't.
Crack down on Nouri Al-Maliki.
It will be Obama who lost.
Iraq I can't hear reports that al-Qaeda is back in Iraq we thought al-Qaeda was Spanish -- -- moved down.
But al-Qaeda is now launching attacks including the and then northern part of Iraq in the Kurdish area.
So is al-Qaeda now are we starting with the -- civil war be fought all over again.
Well al-Qaeda wasn't the res main reason for the civil war al-Qaeda took advantage of the split between the Sunnis.
In the area it's around Baghdad for example and the she from the south.
And the Shia majority -- attached to say and all of a sudden al-Qaeda just took advantage of the chaos and what is happening is that.
Malick he has done very poor job in compromising with the Sunni minority and therefore the al-Qaeda groups can do the damage not only around Baghdad.
But also in the north in Kurdistan KT.
Aren't the other thing is happening this week is United States and Iran are negotiating over Iran's nuclear weapons programs such as the two countries or other countries as well.
But it seems to be that the Iranians have said several things one.
They want the sanctions dropped we understand that it's damaging their economy hasn't led to a change show.
Regime but it certainly cause some a lot of problems but the other thing is that they seem to have been fairly well along on their nuclear weapons program I mean I was.
Prime minister for -- or Gilani when he was in new York at the United Nations two months ago -- -- -- Iran has mastered.
But it nuclear fuel cycle Iran has already reached industrial strength enrichment of uranium.
So where are they some of -- -- respected analysts have said that Iraq Iran rather could be within a month six weeks from a nuclear weapons.
In their arsenal where are -- and Harris negotiations going.
My big fear is that what is called a democratic breakthrough that is.
Some charm offensive making everyone feel good.
Could lead to.
Inadvertently and -- that.
-- a military break out and what is happening is that the centrifuges to continue to spin.
While rule on -- has become the great spinmeister.
With this charm offensive I was in Geneva KT.
And the press center -- and touring the talks and what I've discovered is that the press was running around saying.
We need to help -- -- -- This is not the press this is -- fair and balanced so like I straighten them out as much as I could I couldn't find the fox person their by the way that I would have had to face those kinds of questions.
My prior hairs I think and it today.
What do you think is likely to happen as a result of these negotiations they're -- -- And secretary Kerry of seven lot of fast tracked them.
It sounds as if an agreement would be imminent do you think.
There will be an agreement that if -- while Israel's reaction to be.
Not only Israel's reaction but Saudi Arabia and the gulf.
The Arab gulf states the Sunni states are very worried about an agreement with Shia Iran because it will keep.
These Shia Sunni split foremost on the table.
And with -- with the saudis want to do is to keep Iran isolated I think what President Obama has to -- Is to make sure that not only is Netanyahu of Iran is on board but this -- -- of those of Saudi Arabia are also on board and build a consensus.
And what a -- out what happened.
Then America will -- will probably give in effect a green light for Israel to launch its preemptive strikes or preventive.
Strikes against the Iranian nuclear installation -- Israel cannot finished adopt Americas and sucked and willing -- Italy into -- war that didn't have to happen and then we'll be asking who lost Iran.
Not only who -- Iraq -- -- who lost around -- thank you very much for joining us professor Raymond cantor.
Professor emeritus of the University of Michigan at all they're -- Arab rebels and Iranian dissidents.
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