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Looks like the next union battleground as newly elected governor John Kasich wants to do pretty much -- governor -- doing in Wisconsin.
Governor Kasich joins is now.
From Columbus, Ohio to go to the country seems to be split according to polls.
In protecting the workers so what exactly do you want to do in Ohio vis a vis the unions.
Well bill first of.
All I don't wanna be -- as an anti union guy my father was in the union I grew up in the union town.
And look what I want to do is be able to get -- -- a lot of his deep hole -- -- we have an eight billion dollar.
Budget deficit and we have a massive reform plan that also includes the ability to control our costs as it relates to public employees.
Vs at times the taxpayers I also want to give the flexibility to mayors.
To school districts to be -- control their costs because there's going to be fewer dollars flowing from the state to the to those folks in those Kennedys and I want them to be able to control their costs so basically you I -- I support the idea.
That our union members are public employees ought to have the right to bargain over their wages but there's a number of things that.
That the taxpayers represented by people like me and by the mayors in the city councils and the school boards in our communities need to be able.
I have the control their cars Ohio that's almost exact hour when -- was terrible situation.
Okay and look.
You have an eight billion shortfall Wisconsin's three point six shortfall everybody understands -- there's there's something in play here that I -- -- bring up in a moment but -- -- unions from a in order to accomplish what you and Governor Walker want to accomplish and other governors around the country.
You have to diminish union -- you have to there's no other way to do -- -- wrong.
Bill this is not about diminishing or attacking her being against unions now.
The issue is when you have passed -- -- -- -- -- -- how we did pass.
Look the unions are still going to be able to represented.
The public employees all we're doing is creating a balance there's -- there's a Jim about hey I got it and people agree or disagree on whether that bounce helps or hurts the workers would you have to admit.
That's -- being some of the bargaining power away from the union.
Diminishes it so I'm not saying that's wrong no I you know I kind of music again and I -- you're doing -- -- your seat belt.
I know I choose a look at it a different way when I'm doing is I'm empowering taxpayers.
And in fact I could also be helping union households.
Because if we don't get jobs created -- in this state we've lost 600000.
-- a lot last ten years.
Only California and Michigan has done worse my job is to lift.
Ohio for all Ohio wins so yeah.
I don't believe you don't get jobs if you don't have the jobs and only the union doesn't matter is is not gonna work where it and that's what Walker's threatening to do lay off people in his state now.
The liberal lie and the democratic line the New York Times line.
Is that you and walker brought the situation on yourself because you do want.
Tax breaks you lowering taxes so there's less money.
Coming into Columbus and therefore you have to make it up by diminishing the union that thing you say -- Bill the problem is we're one of the highest taxed states in America.
We're under siege out here companies don't -- to come to Ohio.
We have to lower the cost of doing business so all Ohio wins can gain look I was the chairman of the Budget Committee in 1997.
I was the chief architect of the first balanced budget that led -- prosperous America and paying down.
The most of national of our national debt in modern history I'm gonna take the same formula lower the cost of entrepreneurship.
Lower the cost of being able to create a job and we can get jobs created in Ohio.
Everybody gains our schools gain our hospitals gain the bill the midwest is under assault we are losing prosperity to the south into the southwest.
On my watch I am going do everything I can to make this a job creating state rather than a job losing state.
That tell you clarify a couple of things let me it used you were on the budget balanced Budget Committee while you work congressman Washington.
And you are losing our jobs to this Sunbelt states because they are right to work states worries you roster that you don't agers and but.
Not just that they have lower costs lower taxes look easier regulations less friction against business it's not just one thing.
I am not at war with with the unions that not a war war without anybody.
But you know the unions that make things I hope we're gonna have a great relationship and all I'm asking here in Ohio today is the taxpayers get represented at the table.
Unions can still have their -- but the taxpayers need to be represented and local governments need to have the tools built.
We have a provision in Ohio law that an outsider can fly in impose a settlement on a city that the city can't afford.
They raise taxes and they drive jobs out of their cities now that makes no sense.
So data only invalidated is that a union mandated thing in on that he has -- was a legislative mandated thing is all I was like author has islands -- Aren't I got a governor I got it and thank you for coming on I really appreciate you you articulating -- excited it's always good to me and I think you -- -- he doesn't know that.
I'm always glad to be on -- aghast and I remember when I used to host.
See a bill yet it's amazing it's amazing you won the governorship with that I -- resonated and the fact.
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