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One of -- -- turns most hotly contested senate races Democrat Barbara Boxer has been in the senate the last eighteen years.
Is that a fight for her political life with former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina.
Who's the Republican nominate.
According to the latest real clear politics average senator boxer holds a slim 2.3 point advantage.
Joining us now from Mountain View California is Carly Fiorina we should note we also invited senator boxer but she declined.
Miss Fiorina as we say it's -- and a tossup but.
Having said that in every poll this year except one.
Barbara Boxer has maintained a a small but steady lead so the question I have for you is how tough -- -- to run for the senate as a conservative.
In such a blue -- -- products that.
Well it's also true Chris and good morning thank you so much for having me on the show.
It's also true that in every single poll Barbara Boxer can't get above.
45% of the vote and that's because she actually is too extreme for California.
She is an extreme liberal she is hyper partisan it is why her hometown newspaper refused to endorse -- Describing her as so bitterly partisan that she's an effective.
Look this is a state with huge problem and we have because I gotta say no paper also said it didn't like you very much and didn't endorse you either ms.
Well that's true it's one San Francisco chronicle could not bring itself to endorse me I am a conservative and proud outlet but they didn't say.
That I was formidable and likely to be effective.
California has 2.2 million people out of work.
We have our cities that are bankrupt.
We have people looking eastward 3000 miles to Washington where -- the water has been turned off on our central valley where spending is completely out of control.
And remember that California has about 25% of its electorate that's considered swing voters independents declined to states.
These are people in addition to a very motivated Republican base that are gonna make the difference in this election -- You're you're campaigning and you've just kind of alluded to it to your record.
As a tough bottom line former business executive but you want -- would stand.
Bush tax cuts which would add four trillion dollars to the deficit you say balance the budget by cutting spending question as a bottom line business woman.
Where are you gonna find four trillion dollars the cot.
Well let's just start with the fact that as you pointed out in your last interview.
Spending has skyrocketed.
Out of control in the last two years it's true the government has grown.
Steadily for sixty years but the last two it's gotten really out of control -- one of the things I know.
As someone who started at the very bottom as a secretary and ultimately ran the largest technology company in the world.
You show me a billion dollars and no one's accountable for that no one scrutinizes.
That no one has a new responsibility -- making sure that -- spent wisely and well.
And I'll show you hundreds of millions of dollars worth of waste the GAO just released a report.
That said 22% of federal programs fail to meet their objectives the truth is we don't know how taxpayer money is spent in Washington DC which is why I think we ought to put.
Every agency budget up on the Internet for everyone to see.
I think we ought to ban earmarks I think we ought to give citizens the opportunity to designate up to 10% of their federal income tax toward debt reduction.
If we did that we would reduce our debt by 95 billion and -- -- this Fiorina I mean that traditional ways that people talk about non discretionary.
I mean discretionary non defense spending is only 16%.
Of the budget.
You could cut all of that out all for education and energy and and and for police support and got a government -- -- on the country.
It wouldn't be anywhere close to four trillion dollars where you're gonna get that kind of money.
If you extend all of the bush era tax cuts and that doesn't even -- it's not only adds to the deficit that doesn't even deal with a deficit we already had out.
Well of course first the thing that we need to do to deal with our debt and our deficit is to both cut spending and grow the economy.
That's fundamentally what we have to do those tax cuts are.
Central to growing the economy indeed I would argue there are some additional tax cuts we need to make.
When we're dealing with a 35%.
Tax on business when the world averages 18%.
We're increasingly uncompetitive one RR and when it should be number one we're increasingly uncompetitive but back -- subject on spending.
Look the truth is that politician's career politicians like Barbara Boxer who has been in Washington DC for 28 years.
Somehow never get around to the business of asking the final questions.
The voters want asked now how are you spending our money why is that that every agency gets more money every year regardless of their performance.
That -- and not let me only increased by 37%.
In the last year.
That's that's mares yeah you got spending let me ask is that -- a question because I still haven't gotten many specifics from you on how you're gonna.
Top four trillion dollars and even more out out of the box it.
Back when there was talk about a nonpartisan or bipartisan.
Did -- deficit that commission.
You blasted that idea and -- that we already know all the solutions we don't need another commission to study it.
So now as a non career politician is the anti Barbara Boxer you tell me specifically.
What are you gonna do that -- the billions -- trillions of dollars in entitlements.
At first I didn't blasts the commission saying we -- had all the solutions I blasted the commission.
Because I believed it was a faint for tax increases and indeed we are now hearing coming out of Washington DC.
But a value added tax is going to be one of the recommendations of that commission.
A value added tax would be incredibly destructive to this economy at a time and we need to -- -- -- We're -- hard -- you get where you gonna cut where you gonna cut entitlements what benefits are you gonna cut let eligibility and I have gotten.
You know Chris I have to say with all due respect you're asking a typical political question the American people say you know what.
When we have 22% of our federal government programs that are not meeting their objectives when we have at least two nonpartisan studies that suggest that there is up to half a trillion dollars worth of waste in the federal government budget.
Let us please get after that first before we start talking about cutting entitlements what politician -- A lot of my estimation maybe -- above political S industry arena but that's what the money he has the money -- in Medicare the money isn't Social Security.
We've got the baby boomers coming there is going to be a huge explosion of entitlement spending.
And you call -- -- political question when I ask you to name one single entitlement expenditure you're willing to cut.
-- I believe that to deal with entitlement reform which we must deal where we ought to put every.
Possible solution up on the table except we should be very clear.
That we are not going to cut benefits to those nearing retirement or those in retirement but having said all of that.
For years and years career politicians frankly of both parties have said -- know the only way to cut spending -- to deal with entitlements it's the political third rail and then they never get about the business of cutting out waste.
They never -- into the talking about winning airline plot and inefficiency exactly.
Exactly in thirty years I covered Ronald Reagan in 1980 when he talked about it.
There isn't that out of money in waste fraud and inefficiency.
But you know what Chris.
The budget just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger and every year is it gets bigger particularly in the last two there's more waste fraud and inefficiency in -- right nobody ever gets around to it it's why voters in California and I believe a lot of voters all across the country.
Are tired of career politicians honestly Chris every business and every family in America know.
That at some point you have to start looking at your spending so let's start looking at our spending but let's not just breeze on pass the fact.
That we have hundreds of billions of dollars worth of waste and inefficiency and fraud and we haven't done -- -- -- ten.
I'm gonna try one of our time and if you don't wanna answer it -- -- -- you don't have to do is not a question it's not a but I'm not wanting to answer it -- let me ask the question -- -- plays.
You're not willing to put forward a single benefit I'm not even talking about the people that are sixty or let alone 65 or seventy.
Thought about people under 55 you're not willing to cited as a single benefit eligibility.
Medicaid or Social Security that you're willing to site ya I would cut that.
What I think we need to do to engage the American people in a conversation about entitlement reform.
He's to have a bipartisan.
Group of people who come together and put every solution.
On the table every alternative on the table.
And then we auto engage in a long conversation with the American people so they understand the choices instead of rushing off into a closed room.
And having a hundred senators figured out for themselves we need to engage the American people a conversation.
And I'm willing to consider any alternative but.
We cannot continue to just jump over the fact that our government is bloated.
Inefficient in many cases inept and frankly in many cases as well corrupt senate have to deal with that.
And -- -- and we got less than a minute left I want to ask you one other question.
Sarah Palin has been campaigning for Republican candidates in California this weekend she -- do.
In the Republican senate primary you say you had a previously scheduled event.
Mean isn't the real fact that you don't want to be seen with Sarah Palin because she's not very popular with independents and she at this point in a general election.
Would hurt you not help you.
I'm very proud of my endorsement from Sarah -- and I've said that over and over again but the facts are.
That I had a previously scheduled commitment for months with a group of veterans and John McCain I had a previously scheduled group of fund raisers and rallies.
Campaign schedules are complex things it as you can imagine.
We got word of her trip very late in the game and so I'm delighted she came to California I know that she helped raise a lot of money.
And we had commitments to keep as well.
This herein are gonna have to leave it there want to thank you so much for joining us today and safe travels on the campaign trail.
Great to be with you Chris thanks for having me you back up next for.
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