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Well the school reform movement is getting a big boost from a self described lifelong liberal Davis Guggenheim.
The Academy Award winning director behind Al Gore's global warming documentary an inconvenient truth.
Is turning his -- these days on our nation's troubled.
His latest film waiting for Superman takes a devastating look inside a system.
That has failed generations.
60000 people not a school forty years 40000.
Didn't graduate this is the -- the school is done in this neighborhood.
Child doesn't finish high school won't -- less than eight times more likely to go to prison only -- -- For these kids their only chance of getting into a creek school.
Hands on 100 number just picked the lottery.
-- -- so yeah there's another chance now.
Davis Guggenheim joins me now welcome.
Nice to be here so I have to say -- challenger film.
Heartbreaking and infuriating -- the same time what's the what's the -- messenger trying to leave with your audience what they are -- -- selling out here in new York and LA is actually very moving in the people's feet -- -- here inspired.
By the apparently you know -- and we would follow mother Harlem but also.
Five children and -- pair also white middle class family in northern California -- every parent.
Is fighting to -- their -- education it's a classic American story that everyone can attach themselves to the problem is to find a great school.
Have to submit themselves -- lottery and so -- -- winners and losers and that seems to be.
The thing people responding to un American it's that what brought -- what got you into the into the film because this problem has not knew that we had in two with 26 years ago we had the report a nation at risk was sent to schools and public schools were failing.
We've had battles over school choice everywhere why are you getting into this.
Well you know participant media who funded the movie.
Asked me to make it from about public education if I don't think you can do it too difficult for the storytelling quagmire.
Right and the next morning impacting my -- that in my minivan.
I've taken them to their great private school and I start to count the public school this is in Los Angeles and Los Angeles in the in the schools in my neighborhood.
Are doing everything they can for the kids and my -- I don't think we have to get past that mentality.
And taking care of your own kids we have to have mentality taking care of every kid.
Because it actually affects you affects the price your home healthy for your neighborhood is in the economy -- these kids.
Part skilled labor laborers that they that have if not innovators.
Our economy is truly -- Bill Gates talks about a very very eloquently in the movie.
Well you talk about that teachers unions there in the movies feature Randi Weingarten and if if if there's a villain in the movie I think she's probably yet here's what.
Her reaction she's ahead -- -- the American federation teacher she said there are lots of incredibly good public schools around this country and they're currently great teachers.
And there are more more really interest staying.
Solution driven contracts and I think the fact that none of this is represented in the film was a problem with the film I don't have a problem about myself.
But I do have a problem with fat what's your response from the actually a fan of variety and we've met after she saw the film -- should write a chapter in our Booker has -- look palace where we got it wrong.
A respectable to agree with everything in this movie.
But I want everyone to get the -- with all the adults.
The system actually works for a lot of adults.
For the united teachers the union the political parties that would -- taken a lot of money for people like me senator just a private school.
-- -- works for people sort of stick their head miss him and say you know this is I'm okay.
But as millions of kids were failing in that cuts across both political parties.
And so -- you know it and I think I really deserves actually a lot of credit she's actually.
Pushed her union further that it would normally go in in contracts to Baltimore and even.
DC I -- pressure further but I -- -- push all the -- I don't think it's just about.
Her I'm reliever not a member of a great -- I believe in unions do you think that but do you think the movie is unfair to all teachers just a -- all teachers -- somehow.
At fault here not Jonathan Alter impact from the people who think some of these extreme things.
Haven't seen the movie or they don't want you -- move the movie is very ecumenical.
Really isn't I would agree with that I think it has to make that distinction yes and it's for everybody in in -- that if his pro anything.
It's pro of these kids you just want Big -- who wants to be doctor.
To win you -- Anthony who has to make his grandmother proud to win.
And I think this is an issue that can actually pushed past the mid terms because it's something -- -- can in Korea but we are not doing enough with these kids.
One of the things you eat you wanna point you make which makes -- interesting as -- you just go beyond the inner -- but suburban school.
And that supervisor who work for the top performing -- -- -- but -- -- looked on the middle and the poorest performing kids and the -- to look like they're doing well.
Because the test scores average out that's a big reveal the movie is that this idea that you can move to a suburb by a million dollar -- the family followed that that the average comes a million dollars.
And the school is one of the top rated schools in Newsweek.
What you've learned is that that the top ten or 15% are but you know our search -- -- -- -- And those kids will -- pretty -- -- get the best teachers but the bottom 75%.
-- they are not going to be prepared to -- -- even if they get into a four year college they're not going to be ready yet to be -- media so.
We're really this idea that we can sort of take care of our own is over now.
When -- if it -- the problem as the routing and other schools.
But do you think that the unions are the central problem here that have to be overcome what is the what is is is that the mean I would think -- -- -- I would spread the blame and I do in the movie the inner peace is the thing that people like to report about.
But I start.
By blaming all the adults I start myself.
I -- take -- it's a private school.
Betraying the ideals I thought I live at the talk about the Democratic Party haven't picked a ton of money.
Two and I think -- Democratic Party should have been taking care of the little guy Republican Party and state legislatures.
Is also is also complicit with very complicit in you know and in -- and in the huge centralized bureaucracies.
So we have to sort of smash all that we have to rededicate ourselves to elect thinking about.
All the -- for every -- an American million girls out there -- great school and into the same thing.
And we we really to rededicate ourselves who's at the table negotiating for the kids I didn't scoop and thanks so much for coming.
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