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Next on The Journal Editorial Report one week into the -- campaign what's gone right what's gone wrong.
What happens after the bombing we'll -- former.
Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz.
And the political fallout with the president facing criticism from both parties has he done enough to bring congress the public.
A long plus the Wisconsin union battle takes a new.
Twist of liberals.
Target a state.
Supreme Court justice.
We'll have the latest in back.
Welcome to The Journal Editorial Report I'm Paul as you go after nearly.
NATO agreed late Thursday to take over part of the military operations in Libya the enforcement of the no fly zone will now fall to bat body.
Though the US and its allies will continue to manage the bombing campaign.
A -- President Obama has made clear he is eager to give up.
Joining me now is former deputy secretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz welcome back good to have you here.
Good beer so weekend -- this how's it going.
But seems to me.
We're in this situation where for lack of a strategy we end up in these long circular debates about tactics and the question of who.
Runs the air campaign it's a very important question but it is a tactical question I think the strategic question -- Are we prepared to live.
Long term with a stalemate in Libya and that doesn't mean that were prepared to put American troops on the ground to resolve this conflict.
But it has to be a lot more than just this tightening -- soon.
Economic sanctions I think the real questions should be addressed.
Or what kind of support are we going to give to the Libyan opposition starting with the issue of sending the president having a presence in -- -- recognizing them.
Agreeing on some principles about the long term for the country but also providing them with assistance.
I think -- I wanna get into the into the opposition because a lot of people say you know we don't know who they are.
We haven't -- they could be islamists for example they may be people who aren't really Democrats after all so we don't know them that well why should we back them.
What's your response of that.
My first response would be.
More than one reason we don't know who they are is because we've made very little effort as far as I can tell.
To get in there and work through them and find out who they are and find out which among them we.
Most comfortable backing which ones less so although I must say they include quite a few officials from the old regime.
The ambassador here in Washington for example has gone over the opposition of somebody we've known for a while.
Good -- lot of defectors problem is we know we know.
Whose ruling in Tripoli and and it seems to me that should be enough to create a presumption in favor of the opposition.
-- about it -- that the president's has said before the bombing started he says look my Gaddafi must go but now that the bombing has begun and he says.
That the goal of the no fly zone is not to oust Qaddafi.
What do you make of that strategy and should should we want to get rid of Moammar Gadhafi.
I think we should want to get rid of him but I think it and I think it's correct in this respect I guess I would agree.
So I'm not sure where the administration really is I would agree with the proposition that something for Libyans to do.
But there's just a big gap between saying the goal of the bombing is in his removal.
But we want him removed by some other means so what are those other means and I think you simply have got to begin to take sides and we seem to be unwilling to take sides we seem to be unwilling.
To support these people they're incredibly brave people.
And they've made a number of indications of that they want -- unified Libya that they want a democratic Libya.
It's true these are just words at this point we could be doing a lot to reinforce those words we could be doing a lot.
That make the post Gaddafi future clearer and -- not doing it.
So what and if there's some conservatives who were saying we don't have a real national security interest might be we have a humanitarian interest OK I understand that but that's not.
Enough to commit US troops -- Why don't you tell our viewers what you think the real national security interest is that the US has right now.
-- intervening in -- But let me be clear it's not to commit US troops I think right.
It's -- I think the parent permission of the bombing was basically humanitarian I think that's important.
But I think we have a big interest especially now that Qaddafi has taken himself even further beyond.
Civilized norms we have a real interest in how this comes out and it's not an isolated issue -- The whole Arab world is looking at this people in in Egypt and then.
In Tunisia and elsewhere going around -- demonstrating with -- with Libyan flag so how this comes out and how we -- -- Which side we're seeing is taking -- whether we sit on our hands in the neutral way it's important that whole issue and I'd say finally.
I know people were able what's the what's gonna come after Qaddafi will be that he is already broken the country.
We already face big uncertainties about where Libby is going to be but -- Libya where he is still in stolen power in controlling some significant.
Part of the country and some significant part of its assets I think it's going to be dangerous for the whole world.
-- so so but so that kind of a stalemate and if if the opposition.
Takes -- takes half of the country say and some of the oil assets and Gaddafi sits in Tripoli and maybe some other parts of the country.
That outcome for you is that unsatisfactory.
Which would be seen by the world as a defeat for the United States.
I think absolute.
-- and I think it you'll have a man bent on revenge.
Now controlling some significant power I think they'll be bad for the United States.
I also believe that the where we are right now where it seems as though our main goal is to hand over -- bombing mission here mission to someone else's sending a message -- Tripoli that we are prepared to get out of there and and leave it to.
That we are prepared to live with the stalemate and since so much of this fight at the moment is.
A matter of psychology and momentum I'm afraid we're giving him the opportunity to regain the momentum and that's very bad.
So you're you're -- I come here would be that Qaddafi goes -- that some kind of opposition form a new government in Tripoli.
Obviously with our help but but from their own purposes.
Yes but I would what what I'd like to see in what we're an opportunity we're missing is to get that opposition movement committed.
To some kind of democratic referendum process not just a new regime installed -- guns.
And the more we keep the hands off attitude -- the less we deal with them the -- the chance of blocking and I think.
Some agreement on the principles that could define a post -- future.
Okay we'll see how this develops thank you secretary Wolfowitz when we come back.
The political fallout from Libya president Obama's facing criticism from both parties so.
What's fair and what's not and who's flip flopping when it comes to getting involved.
In the first place.
Well President Obama returned home from his Latin American trip on Wednesday.
He was greeted by a bipartisan.
Chorus of complaints.
Some lawmakers believe he overstepped his authority by launching missile strikes into Libya without first consulting congress others think he acted too late.
And so others are questioning the clarity of the mission.
In a letter to the president this week house speaker John Boehner said quote.
I and many other members of the House of Representatives are troubled that US military resources were committed to war.
Without clearly defining for the American people the congress and our troops what the mission in Libya is.
And what America's role is in achieving that mission.
Joining the panel this week wall street journal editorial board member Max Kaminsky opinion journal dot com editor James Toronto.
And senior editorial page writer Colin Levy.
So James has the president adequately made his case for this mission to congress and the American public.
I don't think he has there was a Gallup poll that -- -- but found only 47% of Americans support this military action.
The lowest proportion.
Of any military action in that.
Last three decades that's -- the start of an action right exactly and against Moammar Qaddafi a guy who has a long record of murdering Americans.
Compare that with our 1986 when Reagan bombed Tripoli and -- it was 71% so I think -- But the president -- I I support this option but I'm dismayed.
At the presidents -- failure to communicate its.
What's that what what what's happening here I mean is it is it partly the fact that he took off for Brazil or.
Or or or changed his mind so quickly what's going I think it's I think it's also that he just doesn't seem to own what he's doing and I think.
If he doesn't want America to be the tip of the spear in the section I think.
Americans could come around to accepting that that's even possible.
The problem is that he's sort of said this humanitarian.
Mission and then we're also mentioned regime change but he hasn't you know really made his case of the American public and so.
Until he's able to do that this is essentially communications issue for.
The White House I think that's one of their biggest problems here can he can he make.
Do you think if he if he actually made an effort to do so.
I think his every constitutional authority to do what he's doing I mean -- going to -- -- -- -- once anybody disagree without that the president in this case does not does has a responsibility or has that authority excuse me to do this.
I don't discourage that although I do think he should have consulted with congress more that's -- -- that's a different issue that arises is whether or not he was just he -- he had the legal right under the constitution editors troops OK it is especially so quick clippers are someone as obsessed.
By perception has this.
And you know they went out a way to bring the Arab League on board bring the UN on board make sure no one and in the world was upset by this.
For them to sort of ignored the domestic public here it's strange he did not go and there.
The night the started and we are leading this military attack you when you and -- tried to we're not.
We're saying we're not we're saying we're not -- -- saying get us out of this as quickly as possible as a as Paul Wolfowitz said that they seem to want to back out.
Look at that right now.
We we launched a 140 tomahawk missiles the British launched two we are.
Leading this military operation in the Qatar for jets is not to become I don't think this is that you resignation and the difference there but he I mean Bill Clinton doing the possibility went on -- from the Oval Office explained what he was doing.
And had the support domestically more moralists -- that is very strange for Obama to go to Brazil.
For Robert Gates -- same time to be -- in Moscow talking about arms control deals.
OK but there's a very simple explanation for this which is Obama is projecting an indifference toward this operation because he using different toward it is not -- -- -- America was dragged along on this by the French and the British.
Obama for what we've heard was dragged along upon it by mrs.
Clinton and -- Susan Rice.
And Samantha Power.
Hi White House advisor -- -- -- it Obama.
Just doesn't care about much if there is this sense too that the coalition comes first and I think that's one of the big issues and generally whenever we've had a military action -- defined mission.
And then you get people to go along with you back here because the first thing seemed to be to make sure that we had a coalition with us.
Then you know you sort of then you -- -- figure out what the mission as and I think that that's made it very difficult sell in difficult.
For the American people because they look and they say well what if one of the coalition partners -- -- we've been stepped back too so they're just not sure how much conviction if there.
I want to talk about the republicans' sudden.
Building opposition to this if that's what it is and we haven't -- from Newt Gingrich and talking to Greta Van Susteren on March 7 about what to do about what.
Exercised a no fly zone this evening.
Communicate to the Libyan military the Qaddafi was gone.
And -- the sooner they switch sides who have more likely they -- to survive this is a moment to get rid of him do it get it over with.
And this week this is what -- former speaker Gingrich said on The Today Show.
I would not have intervened I think there are a lot of other -- so affected our feet I think there are a lot of allies in the region that we go to work with.
I would not have used American and Europeans.
What do you make of that -- I think he's president Obama's best friend I mean he makes him look decisive and and mature on national security issues here.
And that's a problem for the Republicans and we think Republican John Boehner makes a good point that should clarify the mission.
Figure out who's in charge make clear to the American public and to yourself what the end goal is.
But they're sending the message that they're actually flip flopping they're not sure what they would do.
They're making it seem as if their opposition has not principled but as partisan how much of it is partisan how much of -- genuinely.
A sincere support for the operation but wondering about how it's being implement it.
Yeah I mean I think they can't really mix their messages and I mean I think it's important that Republicans have always had a national and and natural.
Advantage on national security issues and I think they're trying.
-- to maintain that but what they're actually doing is sending this mixed mixed message they're not sure.
How they really feel about the mission but they they want to make sure that they know Obama speaks differently about it.
So I think that's actually.
To their detriment to James -- other Republicans right now are 200 and.
-- each members of congress of course they're going to send mixed messages it's not a unified aren't like the executive branches.
I guess what do you make of Boehner was it would -- where where those good questions I think there were good questions.
I think the other question not Boehner should be asking with respect to Newt Gingrich's who -- -- Iraq.
I mean he's been out of all of he's not about -- out of office for twelve years may be running for president.
Probably is running for president so we're gonna will be talking a lot more about it James but I cannot do it.
How could you are right when we come back just when you thought it was over the battle in Wisconsin moves to a new arena this time.
Liberal groups are targeting the State Supreme Court find out why.
Well if you thought the bitter political battle in Wisconsin was over here we go again liberals there are now trying to make.
Next month's State Supreme Court election into a referendum on Republican governor Scott Walker.
And his push to rein in public unions they're pouring millions into the state to unseat justice David Prosser.
Who along with six others on the court could ultimately decide the fate.
Of Walker's controversial budget repair law which limits collective bargaining rights for state employee it's.
So this is not a recall election Colin it's a normal judicial retention elections suddenly escalating into a full scale brawl assist them liberal first liberal.
Counterattack against Walker Cup shirt the first liberal counterattack against walker it's it's designed to send the match -- I think not just in Wisconsin but across the country that.
The unions are gonna stop at nothing that this is all out war that they're not going to accede to any of these sorts of negotiations.
And reforms over there.
Issues and you know I think that unfortunately you've got -- justice here who's who sort of come into the cross hairs and so.
Although he was a very dominant favorite going into this now that there's all this money pouring -- That's changing he would he got 58% of the vote that's right the primary electorate to jungle primary which means it's nonpartisan and everybody participates -- the second place finisher.
Type any time -- and -- -- is so is it if she is well known liberal.
Yes she's she's been assistant attorney general and she's been environmental.
Attorney she actually wasn't intern for the Chief Justice liberals Chief Justice of the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
Whose name is surely Abramson.
-- who's very much interested in the balance of power shifting back to her -- that she'd be clear -- that club over got 25%.
Of right vote in the primaries or prost who would be a big favorite except now those polls are a lot closer as this as this money -- -- James what are the state.
Well that depends are the does it already case that has delayed the publication of this law which means you can't go into effect.
Based on -- Wisconsin open meeting statute -- -- is not the appellate court level on this prize Friday.
The appellate court said the Supreme Court -- take this up right away.
So the Supreme Court pressure -- -- up before even the election takes place.
Once the election takes place of -- bird wins and you have to say she's got a pretty good shot now.
Because these are low turnout election very low -- the ability of -- -- like city real right -- exactly exactly so all right.
She tied -- but -- if she's elected she doesn't take -- seat until August so there's some time to resolve legal questions before she gets there.
And the Wisconsin Supreme Court is closely balanced -- -- three slight tilt to the right so if you turn one seat and it's going to be for three on the left.
And if they don't get the that the court to overturn this they figure the larger political message will be sent -- to you try to go against us the unions.
And we will get you.
-- for -- and by the way and it's also other legislative issues that will also be affected by this court.
If it shifts other priorities of walkers because such such -- such as tort reform on some of the tort reform that walker pass early on in the last time the court was a democratic.
-- liberal majority.
They they just decimated.
A lot of different tort reform issues.
And that's -- a big priority of a walker and a task that in the in the right away at that as soon as the they took -- and took office in Jane Wright and so that could also be another big piece of fallout from the selection.
Looks like James to me that the Republicans were caught flat footed here and they didn't think that this would be.
Would be a contest.
Getting with it here and and fighting back and giving -- -- chance -- I'm not sure Heidi I'd I'd -- think they're probably not doing a -- not drop on the other hand let's not let's look at what's going on and other states Michigan has passed -- a new new legislation are curtailing our union power.
Ohio is moving in that direction.
And so there's a lot Indiana has -- is is is battling over our collective back at you for teachers narrowly.
That's right that's right -- so -- this I don't mean in the broader picture this is a defensive maneuver on the part of the left let's keep that in.
All right we'll be watching.
Thanks we have to take one more break -- we come back hits and misses of.
Time now for hits and misses of the week -- first -- you.
Well Indiana Democrats are apparently trying to outdo their Wisconsin counterparts for how long you can camp out.
In Illinois to invade your constitutional responsibility to vote on legislation.
They left the state to avoid some right to work legislation and stayed out to -- some education legislation.
And altogether this and came in conjunction with what's going on and other states state Democrats seem to be sending a message that they're going to be the last public employees to give up their rent district.
OK what's so great of an Illinois and equipment and it's.
This week -- -- reporter in Santiago asked President Obama to apologize for US support of Augusto Pinochet the anti Communist military dictator.
He said I can only speak to the policies of the present and the future not the past.
It was a perfect for -- non -- odd but tough firm.
I am -- so -- -- to the president for finally breaking the apology habits all right Matt.
-- -- -- the federal judge judge Denny Chin.
This week put the kibosh on Google's plans to create the world's biggest digital library and bookstore.
He's had a deal between Google and group of publishers was not legal because it gave Google would de facto monopoly to profit from the work of authors without their -- permission.
There's a real victory for a -- -- for an idea that goes back several centuries did before the digital age which is copyright laws.
And that your property protections yes all politics is local here for us writers on it comes to copyright protected and we'll take that are right and remember if you have your own hit or miss please send it to us at JER foxnews.com.
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Slash journal that's it for this week's edition of The Journal Editorial Report thanks to my panel.
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