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Al Cardenas the new director of the American Conservative Union that runs C -- Has said the use of said -- you for referring to ECU chair plea to Mitchell has a nasty -- I'll -- and look well first off I apologize for the comments I made about.
I'm our organization.
Has been under attack for the last six months.
Not just our organization but our organization friends and and and and allies and sometimes even their families up from the folks who orchestrated this boycott of Deepak.
And you know everybody has their breaking point.
Not any of that interview I reached migrate important and I don't know what are you are you language that I should not -- my momma raised me better than that and didn't.
I shouldn't say what I said -- it would raunchy and that's why I apologize and you know and chairman partners said that it was a good step forward and you -- we've been here the last few years I'm confident that we will be here next year.
Did you -- just honey per consuming also called AM million.
I have not apologize Tony Perkins.
What should you -- -- them.
Look I that Tony Perkins is somebody who has been orchestrated bit boycott.
Tony Perkins as somebody who has made it clear that -- got to believe that.
The gay people have any role in the conservative movement.
Tony Perkins has.
-- people who worked with -- research council.
I want a kid VP there indicate that gay people gay people could actually be deported from this country so I'm not going to be apologize for the -- should count.
And and Jim -- world net daily and -- C -- who can't.
Well let world net daily mr.
despair -- -- you self described Burger King.
I'd -- and I do believe in whatever the conspiracy of the but months there's I mean -- the guys that.
Compelled books on web site that claim that but not -- leadership for all.
Secretly look I think I think -- people are not amendment but -- you referred to Jim dement.
Farrah and Concerned Women for America as being on the -- in the political misfit toys so you know I've taken that back.
Look I think that I think it's important that senator demand chose to ally himself with people like -- -- -- not people I would align myself -- it.
You know I think that -- the spirit somebody who -- fringe character.
It had always been a fringe character in the conservative movement and I think it's unfortunate for senator demands a lot of himself with people like -- -- -- -- do that there is on the island political misfits Kuwait.
I think he wants to join him on that should explain why they -- -- -- -- would do that there are rather than stand with Deepak.
Here's the reality talent maybe 5% of the hate mail I get entrusting it went into that did not come from conservatives.
95% of the hate mail ideas come from liberals liberals who are angry.
-- we -- out there to go crowded out they're saying to other gay people.
-- there's a different way forward but it did be conservative movement -- policy solutions that are better.
-- family then elect.
You really think that when -- -- -- fighting for gay marriage it's a -- that's fighting for -- actually fought for gay rights it's a little content that's fighting against.
The telephone -- to California for example.
If the conservative movement that's fighting for things like free market Health Care Reform that would immediately expand access to domestic partner benefits.
Unlike the leftist thought -- expand government run health care that.
-- -- and apple right unless there's -- domestic partner benefits don't give you full rights only marriage gives you full rights.
You know -- you know many laws or are the flight only to marriage and not to domestic partner benefits.
Well first I weren't -- weren't even talking about marriage because what we're talking about.
Things that are happening at the federal level and -- -- the issue.
-- honestly never got were a lot of laws of every state it's different law about marriage you want your marriage.
To be recognized one statement -- another state.
That that's the -- and a -- -- -- for 225 years.
Now not -- heterosexual marriage hitters are you measure recognized all over the country.
No you wanna know what if you go to Texas and you're you're you're gonna common law American and you moved to North Carolina your common law marriage is not recognized.
I'm talk about if you get married.
Civilly in any place in the United States to someone of the opposite sex they'll be recognize all over the United States that's not -- again.
Not not -- -- against the public policy of that state.
There are certain state different.
I'm not tell him our common love America until -- -- about.
We sign a marriage license when you go to the Bucks County clerk and you get yourself a marriage license -- recognize all over the country but gave.
Holy noble and perk up -- public all the public policy exception to the all they democratic bought in any state.
Didn't didn't think it is forced to recognize marriages performed in in in other states -- people because it is not against their public policy.
But I think that we're not gonna recognize marriages.
Performed other states.
By people who are are are you know first content but -- -- 818 bailout that marriage they.
Argument -- -- -- -- are you hearing in the same argument conservatives make -- -- talking about.
Incest when that argument that if you feel you were talking about adults who have the right and get married and don't have literally.
And eloquent Kelly Allen is that you just sit up and that's not true the fact it's for children went five years.
We have happy patchwork of American Camelot in the country and the country -- the collapse.
It hasn't been the end of the world I think there's a long conversation.
On marriage didn't have been.
Probably you're -- -- denial about the fact that heterosexual marriage is recognized and every state in the union gay marriages not you can be -- in one state but not -- a -- you can't do that -- -- straight.
And it's been that it would have a history throughout our country where there have been certain -- Haven't recognize marriages from other states.
What what's where -- at in -- in 2011 America.
What straight person that's married in this country is not recognize him somewhere else in this country.
It's not happy right now but it has happened and it and it could have.
Any kind of why we -- why would you want that to happen while he wanted people.
-- because I believe that marriage is a state issue.
And I believe it is okay that we're going to have a long conversation about things like merit all across this country I trust.
The American people on death and out all trust the will the American people and I -- -- I don't need I don't think it's states.
We need to get the federal government getting involved I don't think that that they need to take -- marching orders from Washington on that.
Thanks Tom in Raleigh, North Carolina -- I act just couldn't quite -- competent government federal government should stick their nose and states that.
On on civil rights history kind of busy like that the government would not stepped -- -- -- -- the brokers right act.
Are putting people -- black student in integrating into the market services.
They don't know where you'd be right well I'll probably get along with several -- -- I think that -- -- argument that just doesn't hold water.
Do you think Christopher.
Well first up sexual orientation isn't mentioned in the constitution.
-- now whether or not it is whether or not liberals want to amend the constitution to include sexual orientation per.
-- -- is a nation -- and it concerned race race is not.
Where Andres mentioned in the constitution.
-- you in the thirteenth fourteenth amendment.
Thank you mentioned the constitution do what they look spirit that was clearly there's.
Clearly beat beat it was clearly appropriate the federal government acts because demand and our constitution.
You know battling -- paper that slavery you know but do you -- -- -- -- you'll be clear that we incorporated.
-- -- By the way let me let me interject here -- Chris -- where -- -- -- slavery is -- -- in the constitution.
Race itself was not mentioned -- that you know there's that we correct the idea that he aids and African American a black is three fifths of a person.
But that and then there's an amendment.
That correct set by saying if you born here.
You're a citizen that's the context within.
Which races mentioned but not the cut that you're suggesting it's not mentioned as a civil rights issue or -- equal rights issue in the constitution.
I don't believe that -- I don't believe that is the appropriate role of the federal government.
Attitude to get involved when it comes to.
You're hiring and firing.
You issued here.
But you can just -- about race Sunday is that that's not mention the competition either and that content.
-- you can you can lap you want the bottom line is it is for folks who were pushing for enhance.
Your federal protections on neglecting all in an undercover agent until they are looking over it I'm pretty unlucky and it's in the industry that entirely because of that you'd think that's -- you might -- it you know what you.
You are no -- My customer and psychiatrist -- -- three or.
Private industry has been leading the way on debt and the truth is that the federal employment nondiscrimination.
-- -- it has been painted in the congress isn't quite and a terror they don't have to have a reason that I didn't -- or.
We wouldn't know what he's telling that would not -- that would usually.
And that wouldn't change with the passage of a federal employment nondiscrimination act the only the only way that would change is that they explicitly that they were firing you because you're -- and you want to know what.
Most fortune 500 companies most big company already prohibit that -- -- discrimination and the title company that would likely.
Engage in that type of discrimination are condemn it.
From the legislation anyway.
-- if you want to if you wanna talk about legislation the real discriminatory actors are the bank the state.
And the federal government if you want to pass legislation to prohibit the government from discriminating based on sexual orientation.
I'd be a 100% -- that.
Because I don't -- our federal government or governments.
Okay thank you the top of the called a -- then Chris -- against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
-- no I'm not -- into the right back nine.
-- where the constitution to say that they can do that.
I'm not saying whether or not the -- doesn't -- or -- -- I'm not -- get to the right back biting steeple I believe in order I would lead to approach because look you wanna know what.
I just got done explaining -- -- that right now.
If you want to if you want to talk about who discriminatory actors arc it is the government that are discriminatory act which.
The big business is not I didn't think this could be leading the way our gay and lesbian rights most companies have nondiscrimination power.
Right and art that aren't sure there -- Should there be any process in place to punish companies that discriminate against -- I didn't.
Companies are are rated -- the companies are already doing that we don't need the.
-- don't -- any law does say you can't fire someone for being -- We don't -- -- you would not support any kind of and that I would.
Court I would support anti discrimination legislation that apply only to the government all over the state -- Why why not to private company -- -- a private company be able to -- a particular -- -- it is any.
Well first -- The employment nondiscrimination.
Legislation that is thinking already excludes small businesses which would be the business that would most likely engage in the.
Are there why -- -- is -- -- have won that includes small business.
Crazy because you're what you're doing that you're setting up a process it's gonna cost people jobs -- -- doing -- you're sitting up additional regulatory burdens on companies.
-- -- -- -- -- -- We call it regulatory to stop companies from discriminating against people estimate that's too much regulating.
What it liberal -- -- -- the answer is more right.
Elation and I just on one million indiscriminate regulation I'm talking and listen -- -- -- You right now.
-- -- other private industry's leading the way on protecting gay and lesbian folks almost every -- big business medium size business even.
You larger small businesses not only -- meeting nondiscrimination policies they also offer domestic.
They -- saying that -- -- government should not enforce -- -- having to do with discrimination.
We can trust the government we -- -- Big Brother to be kind and not discriminate.
No I'm invented the other way around -- -- we -- -- these big companies to be kinda not discriminate we can't trust the government.
-- not discriminate.
-- -- -- private market works the free market work -- I didn't get a little green army SL company should have the right to discriminate -- percent.
I I believe that companies should be able to hire and fire people or whatever.
Right so they want to say you're gay you're fired that's that's fine as you know the right to do that.
I believe the time.
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