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Alaska you know it's magnificent it's beautiful it's huge and the record is taking you to the great state of Alaska several times.
-- author Douglas Brinkley has a new book about the history of Alaska called the quiet world saving Alaska's wilderness kingdom he joins us live to see it accurate to see you -- and this system apart to -- conservation books.
But and is it -- let me go first the titled the quiet world why you call the quiet world.
-- used to be the notion when we were frontier society had the open plains and people would be you hear the wind Howell.
But we've become our very urban we become -- -- Everybody's tweeting and talking in talk radio and sometimes.
We need to solitude -- just going into quiet places of Alaska you can disappear in -- wilderness and not.
He get lost for awhile and then come back so it became -- saying for four solitude and the need to have some open spaces in the United States.
Learned from the book which I hadn't really thought about is the intersection of conservation.
And statehood the politics Italian and the politics played in to -- them.
-- it was gigantic for Alaska because Eisenhower was reluctant.
To create Hawaii and Alaska -- want to mess up the congress and what will be will there be Republicans as he was Republican president.
So eventually Alaska gets created but -- -- carved out some areas three mutual wildlife refuges have by the 1950s Alaska was very in vogue but because the statehood was covering magazines for Walt Disney had done a white wilderness documentary.
About the verdict in he had a work to save the northern fur seals and some of the islands.
If people were starting to appreciate that this was -- great wilderness kingdom malaska.
And it was now -- a state.
And -- people like Ted Stevens I just was with his widow this evening and he was an early person in the Eisenhower years -- a lawyer working to save some of these -- clans there.
But don't seem like and -- -- area in the northern part of the -- was always bartered in exchange for statehood that there's.
And and I read how people in Fairbanks were in favor of setting aside and you are.
As an Arctic refuge and -- yet the people and Anchorage were -- They're became a group of people that wanted to do tourism in the great photographer Ansel Adams went up and took photographs of Mount McKinley famously -- call Mount McKinley -- wonder lake who was promoting come to Alaska it's beautiful come fish come hunt.
-- could do you know mountain climb.
And so there became a constituent -- people in the tourist business that we're pushing for the Arctic refuge and also people that were hunting and fishing you also had.
Which -- people up there in the Arctic and so became a bit of a movement and Eisenhower they we had a large National Petroleum Reserve which is still there.
-- -- -- this Arctic refuge became created in December 6 1960 by Eisenhower.
On its way out his interior secretary Fred Seton.
From Nebraska was the key person.
It wasn't a big deal because oil was not really found there until late in the late sixties and by the 1970s by 7677.
On the Arctic refuge -- you drill litter preserve it became a political football.
You know it when -- -- when I've been up seven that is to put everyone in that allow people Alaska who I meet kind of conservationists.
And that they want to save it and you come down to the lower 48 and there are more inclined to wanna save it and Alaska wants to -- -- -- the people -- -- -- I ask you while questions.
Governor Sarah -- conservationists.
-- she's a conservationist.
And -- -- Lisa Murkowski all of those people are because.
In it but it's -- they have their personal -- -- live in Texas many ranchers are great stewards of the land.
The meaning they have a personal land.
-- ethic and -- I believe pass when you could see -- in your TV show.
The bigger question though is do we need wilderness is the -- it better to get oil for one generation energy save -- for our children's children as an heirloom.
In hand these places down.
It's about the role of the and I write a lot about the role the federal government in here because.
He never -- call somebody in my view because I love our land and I love American treasured landscapes and I want to call somebody -- And all full Steward of the land when you're not it's really not not and and a nice thing but there.
The complex are always put up there whether to get the cold weather to get the coal.
Theodore Roosevelt created the Bull Moose Party in 1912 over whether tip over whole land soon enough good sense of nonstop.
Fight for the book is fast in the quiet world and I should them ammunition telomeres but there's going to be a sequel coming up had to take us beyond 1960 but.
You -- learn all about the statehood and the politics of it that's the but -- start with Doug are nice to see you thank you Greta.
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