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To the newly sworn in 44 president of United States and one of the questions -- what does that transition going to be like few people America know that better than our next guest Mack McLarty.
He not only was chief of staff and President Bill Clinton took over but more importantly he's actually been a part.
-- four different presidential administrations he was involved in the Jimmy Carter administration he was chief of staff to Bill Clinton.
But he also was an advisor to George H.
Bush and recently a part of the transition team for Barack Obama as he prepares to take over.
From George W.
So I don't know of anybody who knows the inside of what his bout to happen better than Matt McLarty and by the way a full disclosure.
In addition to a distinguished business career that has taken him all over the world in one of the leading business perhaps.
May be on for for new words not only in the United States but also in South America particularly in Brazil.
He is also like me a native of Hope, Arkansas and a graduate.
A miss Mary Perkins kindergarten Mack mclarty's -- In fact.
This story is you -- Bill Clinton were classmates at miss Mary's kindergarten and that's where you first met.
I doubt you thought at that time one day I'll be working with Bill Clinton in the White House -- we had planned it all along or she ahead.
Another moment of full disclosure your little brother and I heard the same age Wright played in a rock band in junior high just want to make sure the audience knows that.
If I softball you and all the questions it's because.
It's a personal thing so I'm gonna do that well I'll take it back.
Dell had a great -- and you still do what you know we do we do have did have a lot of fun.
Here's what I wanna get to -- It's got to be one of the most sobering moments that a human being ever faces when all the ceremonies are over.
And you walk into the oval office for the first time.
With your hand on the -- When you and Bill Clinton first went into the office and he was now President Bill Clinton.
Tell me about those moments.
I think you put your finger right -- but the key point any transition which is the hallmark of any democracy.
In this inaugural period there's great joy there's great expectation.
There's a sense of gratitude.
But then -- you see that moment.
That you have the responsibility.
For protecting the American people.
It is a serious moment.
And you've got a job -- that you get to work you had the first I guess national security briefing the night before the inauguration that's correct.
The governor we had the president in in that case are present lagged.
Stay at Blair house.
And of course there's the passing of the football movement on the -- -- -- and so forth in the national security -- briefing.
General Colin Powell was the head of joint chiefs when we came to office.
And he gave that briefing to President Clinton is chief of staff national security advisor vice president -- war.
And of course you you really understand the most sacred trust.
Of any president as commander in chief and that was before 9/11 and of course after that.
Event that is that changed our mind set and just changed our lives so much it's become even more Paramount more clear.
You also have been a part of the transition between George W.
Bush and Barack Obama's because you're one of the few people that have actually experience it so.
Has that been a smooth the process can -- I really -- -- of both.
Teams and I certainly want to underscore that President Bush.
And his White House staff Josh -- and his chief of staff.
Have really focused don't having a robust.
Focused disciplined transition and the Obama team -- elect Obama's team with John Podesta who work with us in the White House.
Have been equally well prepared I think.
-- all transitions go well there's and this spirit we're all Americans there's a a feeling of responsibility.
But this one -- had a much more a formal process and I think that's because of the seriousness of the challenges we face there is a moment at which you literally have to decide now somebody else answers the phone somebody -- -- the door the 3 o'clock -- but but seriously there is that point you have to plan that exact precise moment he did when a whole new set of people walking an incident -- tell me about what do you have to do.
To make sure that that smooth.
It's a remarkable transition because within and our all of the pictures are taken down in the White House is all fresh a new beginning.
And then of course the new president walks and it's obviously more of a distinct change when you go from one party to the other.
Which was our case coming in after president.
George Bush forty wind.
But I think the other point governor is it what you get in the White House and get settled in.
You then realize -- responsibility your job what you have to do.
But I'll never forget one -- -- several weeks after.
We were in the White House I saw a documentary.
At home only two hours after I'd been in the White House -- president Kennedy.
And there were he and Bobby Kennedy and his advisors.
Attorney general Kennedy standing at about the same place that I had just -- and what course strike -- this is a sense of history.
And what a privilege it years.
To serve the American people -- Mac you have serve the American people in so many ways and I want to say thanks for not only being on the show with thanks for being a part of several successful transitions we all want Barack Obama to be a great president.
Not because of politics but because of the principles.
Could make America a great country thank you for populated -- -- you.
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