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It well the Justice Department you might say is playing at trump card in its war against online gambling the feds are freezing more than thirty million dollars.
In the assets of poker players themselves.
They're zeroing in on a payment processor and several different banks in this country -- announced John Pappas he's executive director of poker players alliance and former prosecutor John Q Kelly is with us as well.
John Q Kelly going to start with you this is being called this move by the Fed surprising significant and particularly aggressive.
For a simple things like me can you explain exactly what the government is doing here or what did.
Doing his visit is seizing the actual payments and that players have won engaging in illegal Internet gambling in.
They're winning have been process and there were sent to his service to be paid back to the players.
The government actually seeing so many people who are expecting their winning didn't get their -- -- -- prosecutors say pretty clearly this is money -- this is illegal gambling you disagree why.
I completely disagree I mean there is no federal law which says.
For an individual playing online poker it is unlawful no federal law has been contemplated to do that thus far in fact.
The laws in which that's DNY the southern district of New York are applying there have been clearly interpreted not to apply.
Two Internet poker only two Internet sports betting so this is a very -- Situation particularly when the congress.
Is moving in a completely different direction they'd like to see licensing and regulation of this industry.
John clay explained that to me because if you look back it was passed by congress in 06.
If you look back of the articles that are written at that time -- sounds like Internet gambling was outlawed.
While it was I mean I know what we're doing is splitting hairs it's not specifically.
Outlawed is just one of the gambling.
Engagement that is outlawed but that the government is -- -- in the safe or effective 2006 and on the legislation.
That there should not be legally Internet gambling and you have children that have access to the Internet the going to engage in this it's good to increase gambling addiction.
The state is going lose out a -- revenue and most importantly here's.
Unlike gaming licenses in Vegas or Jersey which is very strictly regulate the people that get gaming licenses have to be.
Scrubbed clean before they can get those there's no control or inner side over Internet gambling it's it's dangerous for people that that don't get and you lose a lot of money.
John have a says -- reference there's an effort in the house particularly on the part of Barney Frank to kind of rolled back this law that we saw in 06 but what about those concerns that John Kelly -- race.
The first concern that the government is that action right now as related that you like GA is completely false it has nothing to do with the UIGA.
In fact the UIJ doesn't even go into effect until December 1 of this year.
So that is not true that the -- the next point I think we need to make is that.
The sites that are operating today and offering poker services to US players are not rogue operators his country's.
These companies are licensed and regulated in the home jurisdictions many of them in the United Kingdom.
They do businesses around the globe.
And they operate the business much like a bank they have compliance departments that fraud departments and their customers' security.
And protection is of utmost importance to them that's why we have a million members and there's ten million American Americans who play.
Poker on the Internet because they believe that this is a safe and secure environment.
-- to the concerns for minors and whatnot we believe that licensing and regulation will help mitigate any of those issues even if they do exist.
John Kelly had just checked twice I have left body yes and it's -- this is really a gamble so to speak on the part of prosecutors to seize the players' money will work.
Well Doug I think it well I mean though the law is clear and you know we have legislation to change this law would like prostitution -- Herb marijuana heard the drinking age things like that you know it'll be put in effect until then they have lost their disposal.
Thank you Kelly John Pappas thanks to both -- --
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