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Laura did you feel right now -- doctor Jack Kevorkian and doctor good to have you back and and you know a lot of people know you -- that other name -- -- -- -- ever went down with you -- doctor death.
Did that bother you that them.
Sort of like your nickname doctor death Stockton never never one of my research projects way back when I was training and pathology.
Was very concerned people who were on the verge of death.
And I used to make grounds to two does she see who was who was at that stage.
And the nurses coined the phrase and that and my friends call me that too.
And you are okay.
What what's wrong with -- -- that is not what you think it is it's it's a part of life it's a part of nature.
We're just made afraid of it.
We ask you a little bit about.
Since you're you're mercy killings every wanna look at it.
Oregon -- -- -- Montana.
Among those either having such laws in effect now which would allow.
You do what you did.
-- consider him.
And and many I've been wondering.
Whether others quickly follow suit and under Health Care Reform whether many more will what do you think.
Well -- -- -- nor will but they're they're all doing it wrong.
And manager can be involved.
What doctor can't be involved.
You do if a doctor heads a -- to a patient he'll be charged and put in prison.
Now where's AMA on this busy AMA's support those laws and Oregon and Washington or no I don't know do -- This is it doesn't support them.
Well I'm sure -- -- gonna say no because they want to keep their stand that there are against this.
Why how can you be against a legitimate medical service that was widely practiced an ancient Greece and Rome and hippocrates day.
And by all of phosphorus sure agreed -- Why would you should -- suddenly make it a crime you can make a crime with a law anyway you can just stop a person from using -- right.
We have so we'll have to use your name has been used in -- -- not -- or indirectly referred to in this Health Care Reform debate.
The president -- states -- -- indicating when it comes to caring for our elderly.
That that some tough decisions are sometimes in order this is from the president earlier.
What you can't do.
Or you can but you shouldn't do.
This start saying things like.
We wanna shut -- -- -- troop pull the plug on grandma.
-- -- -- Whether -- -- that's how they.
That's common religious people think because -- -- their -- this kind of illustrate jacket you know religion put your mind and -- straight jacket.
You can't say what you what isn't in the creed.
Let -- Emerson said it nicely you said -- prayers are the weakness of the will -- -- -- -- some weakness -- no prayers there -- -- We can assume.
-- or weakness of -- of will.
All religion is to make you conform to -- so different way of thinking that you feel naturally aren't and then it leads us naturally to -- this is from the president listens.
That at least we can let doctors know and your mom know that you know what maybe this isn't gonna help.
Maybe you're better off.
Not having the surgery but taking.
What do you meant -- that.
I didn't get the whole question what was it.
Well -- -- -- in these kind of things -- -- an older person you do make choices that that is that the surgery.
Or do you up or tell -- honestly -- -- but that that sometimes.
There are hard.
Financial choices today leaving religion out of it it's just it's a hard financial decision.
And in health care that.
Well that's true but that's a doctor's job he's the only one that can.
Can lay out the options and explain all the details of each option he's the only one who else.
-- if you don't mind my switching gears -- but I wanted to raises of you know when you were coming.
The -- Michael Jackson here and whether he was murdered and this report now that.
He was given Propofol and that given in the doses it was given was -- and and town and out -- and murder.
What do you -- that do you think the Doctor.
Who gave -- that.
-- No I don't think he was -- -- malicious.
That's you know murderer's -- defined his malice aforethought there was a video that aforethought I doubt it.
Maybe Jackson himself just -- -- these things so much he pestered the Doctor Who gave it to him just to keep them quiet.
But the patient got what he wanted.
So this is Michael Jackson's doing not the doctors.
What he's -- one who says yes or no takers should take a drug.
You're -- controversial figure people don't know this about you but a lot of those assisted suicides you didn't get a penny.
You you live a very simple -- You know you're you're not a rich guy.
-- But increasingly and in the public appearances that you have -- you strike.
Some as a very bitter guy earlier in Florida he's struck some students is even anti American this is what.
A lot of people remember.
-- America not the country you think it is.
Every of these people have swelled the line that America's the land of the free Humphrey.
You're afraid of all let you be and Americans -- -- -- small factory in the world that was from a a justice of the Supreme Court he said that.
But you turn the American flag around to show a swastika into a lot of folks.
Listen docs now now now you push.
You were showing a swastika on the American flag and that that's what a lot of people who don't like you said are now he's gone crazy on us.
Well we gotta love.
It's a fascism in this country Iran predicted it considers happening.
And there are fourteen principles of fascism by a man named Lawrence Britt who was with the Czechoslovak.
And you and America fits all fourteen principles.
So you saying we're done as a country.
-- -- a free country yes.
Mark look at more all enslaved and -- most people are -- they cry when they have economic problem do something for me the government says vision of the government.
That didn't happen the old days they went out and -- Unfortunately we've got technology which crew changed our way of living so that you must ask.
Through a job so you could always stand -- -- I got just over here announced the bank rescues the auto rescues that.
The auto sales clunker program.
All of that you would have none of it.
Well I don't know if I'd have none -- -- but I wouldn't have the degree we have now look at.
You cannot transcripts a natural right that's the problem in this country.
Natural rights are not -- the founding fathers founded this country based on natural rights you're born with a -- not created by law you can't transfer them to anybody.
-- more than two million died.
You wanna prove it -- -- a baby.
The most free person in the world.
Try to dictate to a baby what's illegal try to make a big you stop something because it's illegal.
Try to say you cannot urinate there now.
And again that's the -- animals they're free either born with certain rights which we sometimes call instincts.
And they don't read -- unfortunately I don't think they got laws which -- -- maybe they knew I don't know maybe they got a rules and their societies and naturally there's so the function of -- law is -- -- -- just keep you from using your right that's all all all can't created in my -- -- -- right.
Let me get creative -- Let me ask -- doctor pat do you support yourself night -- your medical license was revoked.
You let a simple -- -- -- to take very good -- so you're looking great shape you're 81 years old I believe.
How do you support yourself.
Well first -- -- Social Security.
Which is probably a mistake but I think it should I -- didn't do it you can I don't know I'm gonna get a program started a veritable beginning her sister.
I heard that I -- but that doesn't surprise me I'm surprised I get into the at all.
The other thing is -- -- -- schools and I loved that talking -- young people because our minds are still pliable the older people are.
Maybe like you are petrified petrified actually much.
But I had do you want to give its intensified and do it let me get -- -- -- replied.
Let -- but now you know you can't beat the be that much of it and alienated guy I mean -- got Al Pacino.
Playing you know in this HBO movie that's coming down.
How does Al Pacino looked as you.
Think it looks exactly like they did a great job on him.
It looks exactly like me I thought that was my photograph we know about -- -- that to me.
Can you tell us or do you know.
How the movie's gonna make you look.
Is it going to be a sympathetic portrayal is it going to be hatchet job what.
Well it can't be more -- hatchet job and I've been through already.
So anything would be -- -- that you that are going would be better from here now.
You know I wish you continued good health doctor in ER 81.
-- not looking forward to go anywhere has to die have been RL or anywhere.
How do you want to be remembered.
No matter -- -- when I'm -- nothing matters.
And having an integrated on a tombstone -- Don't really know.
Have you any final -- on how you go or.
Well probably -- nation but because it's -- cleanest.
Pen that you dispose of the remains.
And what -- would have you not passed along those wishes to folks I'm not wishing you well doctor I'm just curious boy oh boy.
-- not past smaller.
Well can I ask you one question sure.
When you transplant the heart.
From a baboon into a baby as we did.
And you say the body of that baby is sacred.
Does that prove -- heart from a baboon become sacred when you place -- nobody.
Or when you take out -- gallbladder.
And throw it in the garbage.
Does that make sacred goal Letterman garbage.
Horseshoes -- the -- it loses its sanctity.
You see this silliness of our mythology.
Children ask the questions I'm just asking -- Troubled as.
Children get -- for asking questions like that because they have -- defense but you can't slap me.
I can ask the question it's a logical question.
You say the body is sacred.
What do you mean by that as godlike divide.
Then all of -- your intestines and they must have divine contents -- your intestines.
Can you imagine that there isn't thought there.
-- always done Terex you'll always an easy as it when you were -- -- during did you learn a religious sanity you.
Did you believe in god no -- -- from the get go you know that was.
My parents never forces religion I mean my father never was -- much my mother was -- in the old country religion.
But not fanatic we go on to two times a year -- driver to Detroit.
And -- -- go there just to be where the but I've never believed in god I never believe in Santa Claus because there wasn't a tradition of the family they didn't know -- the old country.
What did you do not let you know -- what did you do for fun as a kid -- what's the fondest memory.
All -- -- in baseball and cops and robbers and games we have we had fun.
But this is natural everybody does that animals do that they play their play full.
Well yeah if you want to become a pathologists.
Because it was connected with every field of medicine and also -- laboratory which is important I -- -- I like research by the way so it was the right choice.
And you like I never did -- like my child -- people live right.
Well no not really a huge help do you just help the doctors who were helping the people a pathologist generally is not a physician.
He doesn't treat patients.
Of entitlement part -- part of that responsibility.
Is -- working with physicians in what is that's registered a continuation of the value -- so you didn't share that.
You're you're Europe you're highly specialized -- -- technologist is what you are as a pathologist.
All right talk to make sure you're going through medical -- you have -- through medical trade you know.
Well you're welcome it's been a pleasure it's been a pleasure -- the doctor Jack Kevorkian's continued good health thank you do well.
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