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Despite years after Katrina five billion bucks in -- still unspent.
-- a quarter of the more than twenty billion dollars in housing and urban development relief funds.
Promised for gulf states and now the big storm after the big storm.
And the big financial -- over one habit of the doubt how could this have happen.
Michael Brown knows bureaucratic incompetence Amanda began -- characters are horrible and wrong to Katrina but was later completely vindicated on Katrina.
Here to say this wasn't only a storm of -- reports.
It was a perfect storm of -- and -- oversight of even bigger proportions that continues today.
Former head of FEMA Michael Brown was -- right now Michael good to have -- back.
Hi Neil how are you deal by the way it percent of our scenario -- Truck I don't know video on on though you -- heck of -- job all that but it's been fascinating come down here and I've been visiting with people that I was having dinner last night and talk to man for almost an hour that was trapped in the superdome and he told me a story about it was fascinating stories so.
If it's been a very good reception down here.
Past couple others.
-- counted the general media will never ever.
Get beyond looking at the facts in the case in the investigations -- Katrina and the fact that you were exonerated.
And the fact that you didn't warn about the levees and the -- -- you did say.
Some deep doo -- was coming pardon my friends here that's neither here and there right so let people have would you.
Why no one's having -- it -- officials today.
On the five billion that is as yet.
-- -- -- Let me tell you something I was shocked.
You know I'm still kind of personally ticked off about ground zero in the fact we don't have the freedom -- -- yeah because of all the flights in the lawsuits and everything else.
That come down here and I think the one place that bothered me the most.
Was charity hospital because that hospital we worked so hard to take care of those patients to evacuate them that the generators -- And you know that today five years later charity hospital surrounded by barbed wire and chain -- -- That you gotta tell me somebody needs to go to whoever thought that paperwork and the desk and say just fix just do it.
I was a run in the gulf oil leak and you and I got into this -- and hospital's problems does not -- time -- And I have a theory on this that it's probably wrong but I think when you have so many cooks in the kitchen.
The food is -- You know -- and and I think that everyone means well aren't I take nothing away yes from what various.
Agencies and public officials are trying to do.
You don't know who's run on the show.
And as a result someone says I thought you had that money come and -- -- you -- gonna move those trailers here on you where you know and and there's no.
Parts there's not an and in fact what happens is they are so it is just now I'm not saying it's wrong which is it's human nature.
There are so many rules and regulations that somebody could be sitting with that paperwork and their deaths and they know the right thing to do.
But they're they're constrained by a rule and they are scared to death to go around that rule would say this is just stupid this is what we need to do.
Because as you and I know they'll be dragged in front of congress will be some pompous congressman with a camera in front of him -- this individual for having cut a check for something.
Run in the meantime -- -- you know what is another Atlanta we learn it with you know the guy who's -- Christmas Day bomber apparently plenty of warnings about him plenty of emergency memos that were sent.
-- agency ignored -- the father of this guy and -- flights as much my son's a lunatic -- an addict gets lost you know don't don't like what led to 9/11 what.
It would happen with the gulf oil spill at a time and again we see.
But we haven't learned from Katrina where -- was this issue on several tablet.
Not -- not at all.
In effect if congress wanted to do something they would think they would step Utley would say.
Come to us and tell us how to rewrite the regulatory scheme that gets this money -- Tell us how to move faster -- -- -- the agencies to do it through the regulatory process.
Just in that statutes that -- you can go do this.
Give them some flexibility and let's recognize that that's the only way it's going to speed the process -- Five years later at a hospital is still surrounded by barbed wire -- Now in the meantime they're building.
Some sort of a wall or something.
So it's a lift lettuce and we don't have the type of thing where New Orleans is essentially.
A bowl where water just fills up how's that -- Well I don't know limiting our interview Harry -- the actor and comedian Brian if you look at the army corps -- -- that was -- yes yes.
And apparently there's a whistle blower that says that the design of those pumps is inherently.
Wrong and it's not going to work him and so we've spent fourteen billion dollars or something -- levees and some individual some brave individuals saying.
Those pumps will not work.
-- what are we doing.
Not that great individual right.
-- -- our system is separated individually -- according.
According what Harry Shearer told me you've got the Office of Inspector General has looked at -- and -- confirmed that she's been given whistle blower status.
And I guess I guess congress is sitting -- right now.
Well my go every certainly have you Ron Lewis hit the blogs and is deeply announcer Tom Arnold brown and I always -- them to read any of the Katrina reports.
On let generated then decide and on -- the military I've got a book coming out deadly indifference until some of the inside story -- -- that's going to be good stuff.
Michael Brown a pleasure -- I think your deal -- of around five years after Katrina.
Think the -- -- say sorry.
Picked out anyway.
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