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What's gonna happen tonight the president now just hours away from giving his first State of the Union Address so what message does he need to recapture voter confidence.
Our next guest couldn't run against President Obama in 2012.
But says the president.
It's funny on the right track yeah.
Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty joins us from Minneapolis -- according -- governor.
Good morning Gretchen is that true you think the president -- on the right track in what way.
I wouldn't say is on the right track and all I've said is the first step on the road to recovery is admitting that you have a problem.
And at least rhetorically he's admitting we've got a spending problem I do think the steps that he's outlining our small and symbolic they're not enough.
But at least it's a start in his mindset away from -- the nation in a hard left and I think dangerous wait at least rhetorically saying.
We've gone too far so maybe it's a first step towards better path form we'll see the proof will be in the putting.
So what you're talking about is the plan that he unveiled yesterday talking about freezing I guess a savings of fifteen to billion dollars at.
There -- fifteen to seventeen billion dollars over the next three years so you're not one of the people a conservative who is attacking that saying that that's just again.
Well I am saying it is a gimmick but it's it's better than what the path that he was -- I'm saying look it's it's a small step it's a symbolic step but it's better than the path that he was on.
But it's not nearly enough Gretchen -- you look at it of course she's not touch entitlement programs I think correctly he's not touching defence and security.
And the net -- -- it over ten years -- in perceptible he should be talking about cutting spending not freezing spending he should be talking about cutting taxes by making that.
The bush tax cuts permanent not raising them he should go back to the table -- health care and do bipartisan cost controls and health care.
And we should stop this spending binge and pass a constitutional amendment to balance the federal budget.
Those are the kinds of things he should be talking about these little things that he's doing -- help but the margins but they're not really gonna tackle the problem.
All right let me talk to a little bit about the war on terror do you think that he's going to address that tonight because that polled second in Massachusetts last week.
According to the voters of their -- -- know we're a little more about that with this president.
Well yeah I think he has -- You learned -- will learn that it is weakness not strength attempts are enemies we don't want to go around the world.
Apologizing and accommodating we want to -- but not be -- goal and national security be that we be popular in Europe the goal should be that our nation is secure and safe.
And so I applaud him for.
Putting the additional troops into Afghanistan for example but he took too long to make the decision and he should have announced the withdrawal simultaneously with announcing the surge.
But that's clearly on American's mind underwear -- bomber brought a lot of that back.
We're going to be in that war for a long time and -- hope that he'll be strong and diligent and as it gets prosecuted but.
He signaled on a number of fronts some equivocation or at least some delay in his thinking I hope they'll come out strong tonight all right now we're gonna.
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