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You're a leader Reid is anxiously awaiting the CBO estimate on -- -- health care bill -- -- how much it costs but you shouldn't be waiting.
Because even though you paid for the CBO estimate of the cost you will be the last to see it.
We spoke to senator Judd Gregg about what's going down with a health care bill.
Cynnex CF thank you gotta -- forcing me I -- him he a lot of assassins last time we spoke -- -- about -- I thought that -- help.
Reform Health Care Reform bill is going to get passed by the end of the year.
By the end of the year I don't think they -- about.
They know they've got super majorities here in the senate and the house so -- logically have to presume that they're going to be able to pass something in the -- invested his whole.
Physically domestic political agenda on this issue so you have to presume they'll be able to pass something and I'm -- it's going to be a very.
Large bills than spend a lot of money we don't have drive -- -- -- and make it very difficult for people to keep the insurance they have today.
It's something how -- speed down.
How to senator Reid passed that something you would answer the -- hurdles that your party base and try to stop that and girls that he faces in trying to get -- -- where they put in public option if they want to.
Well yes take a -- across the floor of the senate.
And let's see is something called reconciliation which I don't really use that the nuclear option when they -- I had no it would be it would -- Bill that would look like Swiss -- -- suspicious of me residual checks could be viable against that drastic -- across the floor which means he has a sixty votes to pass the bill and there are also some of amendments -- to be subject to sixty votes for it points of water.
So he -- the bill on the floor fairly benign.
Once he gets it across the floor and send it to conference then means where -- -- in the running for the house.
Then they can loaded up -- basically whatever they want -- you'll see it move very hard left to follow the -- -- very strong I would suspect public plan which leaves a single Payer system.
Very -- very expensive.
A lot of activity and it did then powers the trial lawyers for example as the house -- did.
And then it comes back from the conference and unlike when it first comes across the floor like the -- -- the conference and only requires one.
There's only 160 vote point water and final passage is a city 51 vote then.
-- how do you know that it will get hits it could hit a sixty vote hurdle at that point.
Well I would hope that it would have never got a child doesn't get to conference but if it gets to conference and go back from conference -- would -- That would be stopping that sixty vote point -- -- -- as a very practical matter at that point.
You've got a huge amount invested by the president and by the leaders of the congress on the democratic side of the aisle so there's -- there's a real risk if they were to lose -- for that kid limited benefit of the country.
Visited I don't get senator Reid is working on us down the Congressional Budget Office -- hasn't number on his Bellwether they're about to deliver them at some point.
We don't we don't get to see that.
When any wind why don't we get to see that it.
We pay for the CBO would pay for their work and we -- we're supposed to have transparency.
Can't we see this number now.
Plus this -- questions like why are they hiding this bill I mean why are they writing it.
Behind closed doors for five people writing I mean this is the most important -- legislation.
I'm ever gonna see in my career in the congress -- -- 40% of our economy everybody's life and yet we're not going to be able to see this bill until it is put out on the desk.
Probably 72 hours of notice and then it goes to vote as to whether or not we should pick it up.
But the CBO says it could honor confidentiality if passed -- -- and it while the name.
I don't understand why anyone wanna ask that because then we really do want to know these numbers that we can make reasoned judgment citizens -- checked with national visit.
As an -- S senate -- -- see it sooner rather than.
After the fact well I think the American people have a right to know what's gonna happen to them.
And they're not gonna know what have gotten out before before he -- gets any -- -- yeah -- the numbers that we're democratic senate and the numbers I charm now live audio.
Now somewhere I mean there is a bill somewhere this being scored by CBO.
You haven't seen that I haven't seen almost every member of the senate hasn't seen.
And that no members of the presidency are there any serious side bills like payments to doctors or anybody else.
That are serving carved out of this so that they can meet the pressure of 950 -- -- -- we'll choose a house bill as an example.
That was alleged to be a trillion dollar bill it wasn't a trillion dollar bill because what they did in that deal was they took out the doctor payments and didn't pay for those -- 300 billion resident and considered in the -- -- and they put that the income from that build a new taxes and the cuts to Medicare they said those on day one.
But he didn't start the expenditures and that -- till the fourth year so they match 46 years of expenditures against ten years of income.
So that's how they got to a trillion dollars costs like done -- -- it is a three the house bill is if it's fully implemented a three.
Growth in the size of federal spending aren't even happy at my best tennis but I don't we -- -- -- those numbers games on us well you know.
Obviously they haven't -- I mean -- you on top of that I mean you ask the right question where where's the where's the money where the shells that are we're look we should be looking under and one is the doctor six the other is the fact that the 101 ten year.
Number is a fallacious number but I guess they're deflecting it just finding -- what's the real number.
And now what's the number that was sort of hiding in plain let it I think every number in the house bill is not a trillion dollars has been streak going on a serial number of the house bill.
Isn't that it cuts Medicare by 500 million dollars -- -- and Medicare by -- trillion dollars in the second.
Ten year -- and it raises taxes.
By well over a trillion.
Thank him personally watching this is -- travel -- Capitol Hill thanks I think.
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