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Now from Washington for his first Sunday -- -- -- was the unsung star of Barack Obama is remarkable effort these last two years.
Some of those rarely seen on television campaign manager David plots and David welcome to FOX News Sunday -- -- eucharist.
Let's start by going back to Carl rolls electoral map which we put up in the last segment and that poll shows.
Obama now leading in states with the 311.
Electoral votes 41 more than he needs to win the presidency.
But you just heard Rick Davis saying that there's been tremendous movement in the southwest part of the country Daryn in three of those Blue States Nevada.
Arizona and New Mexico he says that McCain is now winning in those states he says Pennsylvania.
Is up for grabs.
-- how do you see -- -- -- Well Rick makes a always makes an effective case first candidate but that's not will we see -- all first the western states.
There's been a lot of early voting happening as you mentioned in the first segment in Nevada and Colorado New Mexico.
We think we have a decisive edge right now so.
John McCain would have to win Election Day by huge margin to make up those deficits the Kerry states we do not see the kind of tightening in Pennsylvania.
That Rick talked about we campaigned hard in Pennsylvania we've got a great organization.
We have one point two million more Democrats registered than Republicans so we feel good about the Kerry states Iowa New Mexico.
-- Nevada Colorado Virginia all of the -- take away targets we've been working on for so long.
We think -- in good shape heading to the election but obviously we need great turnout on Tuesday.
They're still undecided voters out there so in these last 48 hours we're continuing to talk about the economy Barack Obama's plans for the -- class.
And we're just trying to turn out every single supporter we have so we have historic turnout on Tuesday.
If you've come up with a number of we've talked about this before of exactly how many votes you believe you need to win each state.
How do you -- arrive at that number.
Well in the number gets adjusted obviously because what we're seeing generally I would suggest that -- -- Overall it's going to be a little bit higher in some of these states so I think you're gonna see huge turnout the McCain campaign mentioned -- 130 million number nationally.
The other day we think that's the floor.
We think it should be a little bit higher than that and some of these states like North Carolina.
With the early vote I think you're gonna see just huge turnout and for us the most important thing is we are seeing newly registered supporters of ours younger voters African American voters Hispanic voters which in many states are -- for us turning out of -- levels.
So we still have a lot of voters in the pool so to speak on Tuesday.
So the notion that somehow we're -- all our supporters early -- nothing left for election -- just not -- we're thrilled with what we're seeing in the early vote.
And we think sporadic voting Democrats.
And newly registered voters are gonna vote -- historic levels.
I wanna get -- a little more detail on the turnout question and a moment but.
But at first let's talk about the thing I've I've brought up with Rick Davis the fact that you have decided to make a late push it North Dakota in Georgia and even in McCain's.
Home state of Arizona is there a touch.
Of arrogance here I mean wouldn't make more sense to focus your resources -- -- advertising and everything on on the states that you need to lock up 270 electoral -- Well Chris we're doing everything we -- in the core battlegrounds Ohio where Senator Obama today Florida.
Virginia North Carolina Indiana all of those states are doing everything we think we need to do try and win.
In these three states we've been organizing for some time the reason Georgia is so competitive right now is all the organizational ground work we put -- Why you're seeing early vote numbers in such large measure so.
In North Dakota Georgia Arizona we think all three of those are going to be close.
And there's benefit to having the playing field to yourself.
One of the reasons we're so strong in states like Indiana North Carolina Virginia even Florida.
Is McCain campaign was arrogant.
They were asleep at the switch and thought those states would not be competitive.
So we had.
You know 23 months head start advertising organizing so in North Dakota Georgia and Arizona.
We think we have the playing field to ourselves we think all three will be close and we're gonna give a shot to see out now I think John McCain should be favored in all three of those states.
But we think they're going to be very close and if you look at Georgia the early vote there -- similar to North Carolina.
Is just striking in terms of its composition.
And you know we think we're headed to a very close finish there.
We we want to talk about -- -- You say that one of the keys to your strategy is to expand the electorate.
And get people to vote certain groups in ways that numbers that they never have before.
But let's look at the 2004.
Exit polls because.
Did they show that in 200417%.
Of the voters were between the ages of eighteen.
And 29 so called young voters 11%.
At 11% were first time -- voters.
Rick Davis says that he doesn't see.
Those percentages changing that the total turnout -- and increased but not the percentages of those groups.
In fact you see those groups.
That represented a larger part of this electorate than they did four years ago.
We do in -- battleground states we're obviously not running a national campaign we're just focused on.
About sixteen state so in those states I think you will see.
Make up higher percentage of the electorate I think African American turnout will certainly be higher in most of them I think -- Hispanic higher turnout higher in states like New Mexico and that.
So you know you look in North Carolina right now about 27% of the early voters African American.
In 2004 I believe the African American turnout was 18%.
So even if that slides based on what happens on Election Day it's going to be a much higher percent electric.
We're seeing younger voters which is a big part of our primary success.
Turning out I mean I think the McCain campaign wants to believe that these younger voters aren't gonna turn out and I think on Tuesday night they're gonna have a clear sense that they did.
Well -- let me ask you about that because as we -- 17% of the voters of the exit polls 2004.
Younger but as I understand -- focusing on battleground states but he is and it's going to be more than 17% in some of those battleground states.
Well -- you know in some of those states that that number was higher or lower in 2004 but yes we're we're putting in the effort.
I think first time registrant of all ages younger voters African American voters you're gonna see their turnout percentages increase.
And obviously like in Florida a state where there's an enormous numbers erratic putting Democrats who do not vote in 2004.
One of the things we're seeing that we're so well please within Florida is a lot of the people voting early.
Are not regular voters they're people who -- we've been registered or who did not vote in 2004.
And so we think we've got huge ability to improve the electorate for ourselves in Florida.
Who's going to be on in the next segment help invent what's known as the 72 hour project.
To the flood battleground states with armies of volunteers many of them neighbor is not strangers canvassing -- -- in neighborhoods.
But neighbor is talking to neighbors armed and aided by micro targeting.
To turn out there vote -- to what degree -- you copied.
Rose play book and to what degree do you think you.
Improved on it -- I would never that the copying Karl Rove playbook but there's no doubt that -- the bush people in 2004 is impressive.
They had neighbors talking to neighbors they did a remarkable job increasing Republican turnout in states like Ohio and Florida what we try to do is.
You have neighbors colleagues friends and family talking about Senator Obama -- call last night.
-- 20000 of our team leaders around the country -- -- the backbone of the campaign.
And what we see is we don't think the McCain campaign have really done a good job of emulating the bush playbook 2004.
They're doing a lot of robocalls a lot of paid calls.
We don't see much activity on the ground.
And honestly right now phone calls are getting less and less effective people are tired of being called.
So you've got to be at their doors and yesterday we had the biggest day the campaign in terms of canvassing so we really have tried to build localized campaigns.
So that in Lorain Ohio.
And Tallahassee Florida.
Roanoke Virginia we've got people from those communities -- -- out making the case to the remaining undecideds and reminding their neighbors who are supporting Senator Obama.
To vote and we think that's going to be huge advantage on Tuesday.
You know the McCain campaign in the closing days really can be defined by nastier and nastier robo calls.
And I think what we're doing is meeting people where they live and talking to them about the challenges they face in our lives.
David I asked Rick Davis about voter is it's -- process and to be fair and balanced I want to ask you about voter fraud.
Acorn as Davis mentioned his alleged to have.
-- thousands of bogus voter registration and at least fourteen states the FBI.
The Indiana Supreme Court overturned a mayor's race.
Because of fraud an absentee ballots in 2005 -- Tennessee State Senate race was -- -- because there was evidence.
The dead people and felons had voted I know that the Obama campaign likes to call the assault on -- but isn't voter fraud a legitimate issue.
Well first on registration we're proud of how many millions of people have registered to vote in this campaign.
We as a campaign made it a priority a lot of people -- their -- are doing it obviously if if there was voter registration fraud the officials are looking that.
These people aren't gonna vote on Election Day Mickey Mouse Tony -- -- -- about and obviously that voter registration fraud should be investigated.
What we're seeing is in Indiana you know our opposition tried to limit the number of early votes sites when the governor of Florida -- I think a terrific decision.
Two -- generally vote you know you saw some grumbling from a profit opponents down and Florida so.
Our our view on this is simple.
We want it to be as easy as possible for people to vote they need to do so legally obviously and I think what you're gonna see on Tuesday is just a great turnout.
Now we're obviously gonna monitor.
All the precincts and all the battleground states to make sure.
None of the normal suppression activities are effective.
But our sense is that people whether they are voting for John McCain or Barack Obama people understand this is a -- election.
-- big stakes I think we should celebrate it in this country that so many people -- -- -- -- democracy.
I think you're gonna see historic turnout on Tuesday and I think that's good for America and -- we also think it'll be good for our campaign.
On the money aside your campaign is allowing donors to use prepaid.
-- cards to contribute which are almost untraceable.
You have not disclose the names of millions of small donors I know.
That that both of those are legal but but -- does not live up to the standards of Obama -- new kind of politics.
Well we are obviously a following the FBC requirements.
We obviously have returned a lot of money when people of exceeded their contribution limits if we've seen something that's fraudulent now this is something that's affected both campaigns.
The McCain campaign has a huge number of anonymous donors.
People like Jesus to have given them multiple contributions so what we have done is is we've got a rigorous compliance operation -- catch all that.
And overturn a lot of money.
And obviously if something gets brought to our attention that we didn't catch that's a problem -- -- it I think what should be celebrated about our campaigns we have over three million people.
Who contributed to our campaign.
Teachers firefighters nurses retirees they're making up the backbone of this field organization in the country.
And it's a real re engagement in terms of the political process for millions of Americans and we think that's good for the country we also think it's gonna help -- -- on Tuesday.
As we said at the top you very rarely come on televisions I want to take this opportunity to ask you a couple of questions over the last two years.
Your big inside -- at least it's credited to you say is that you were in during the democratic race.
Understood that with two well financed candidates like Obama and Clinton it was going to be a matter of a delegate race a prolonged -- And a caucuses -- -- what is important is primaries.
-- what was your strategic insight for the general election.
Well I think as a campaign we decide and we've obviously got terrific people working on this campaign who helped make these decisions.
Ours number one strategic goal with that he'd be playing field.
We did not want to wake up on the morning of November 4 waiting for one state.
We won a lot of different ways to win this election.
Now that wouldn't be possible without senator Obama's appeal we thought he -- appeal in the western part of the country have appeal in the mid Atlantic -- states like Virginia North Carolina.
So what we accomplish that.
Right now John McCain is playing an enormous amount of defense.
And again they did not think states like Indiana Florida North Carolina Montana would be competitive.
Through the summer through the early fall we were campaigning there and advertising and organizing and our opponent left the playing field after.
And so here we find ourselves two days out from the election.
We have a lot of different ways to get to 270 electoral votes we do not have to pull an inside straight and so strategically that was our most important goal.
And again one of the reasons were able to do that is the organization.
We can take on this big task of having this many states because we have millions of Americans who are owning the campaign in their own community and our most effective messengers.
David we got about a minute left and I got two quick questions to ask you first of all -- I repeat if Obama wins would you be interested in coming -- -- White House.
I've got to get through Tuesday Chris.
This is -- a long two years.
And I've got -- and a son and and a new one on the way so I've got to dig in with my family here so I'm just trying to get through the finish line on Tuesday and I went on my part.
Well -- and that brings us to the second question I wanted to ask you in fact.
You do have a very big event coming and that is not the election it's the birth of your second child and I that's raising here in Washington.
Your your wife -- I understand it was due yesterday.
What do you do if you're in Chicago on election morning.
And you get the word.
Your wife's -- labor.
I will get back as quickly as I -- -- to the hospital first things first and we're obviously so excited about that.
We're hoping that.
Our new one will wait till after Tuesday but either way -- be thrilled.
But figures saying that if election morning you find out that that the new ones coming in isn't what -- -- for the election.
You're gonna leave Chicago and head off to the hospital absolutely.
Boy there are a lot of people in the beltway are gonna question your priorities -- that well listen we've got a great team in Chicago and -- -- just get in the way from there on Tuesday anyway but to no -- have a great Election Day.
And we're gonna great turnout and I think at some point the night of November 4 of the morning of November 5.
Barack Obama win this election and will be the 44 president of the United States.
David we want to thank you so much for coming in and talking with us and now that you know where we are don't -- a stranger and good luck and congratulations on the impending birth of your second child thank you Chris.
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