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So the conventions or whoever no change back hit a perfect time -- a hey Cold War drama more or less forgotten for the for survivors though forty years later the memories so still -- for them.
At navy spy ship the USS Pueblo.
Captured by North Korea during -- mission back in 1968.
82 crew members held prisoner and tortured for eleven months the survivors now gathering for reunion this week and one of them.
As -- McClintock he's with me now -- good morning to you.
Good morning Bill Clinton was -- thank you for your time good -- want to go over the story just just for the memory of me and our viewers.
How are you taking capture.
We were on the last day of the mission and we were floating dead in the water.
About fifteen miles off the Korean port of one son when your approach.
Ultimately six vessel's sub chasers small report torpedo boats and two jets.
And basically they attacked us three hours later and they boarded us and we were brought -- wants and as prisoners.
Well you're mission was the way.
Labeled as minimal risk oh you have an issue that forty years later we get talk about that in a moment but tell me about captivity.
Eleven months with the north Koreans what happened.
Well with the first week they they expected that they were going to be attacked.
And they were they were beating and torturing us trying to get confessions out that said that we -- into their territorial waters -- are trying to use that as justification for attacking us look what you -- last day that you were never Korean waters is that right -- we remembering that we were never in Korean waters in the United States navy proved it by analyzing the evidence that the Koreans presented at panmunjom.
They did that in 1969.
And disproved every single point of the Koreans.
Evidence and then classified it secret and only release that last year.
You have said in here on the record as saying that the US navy would have preferred.
The Pueblo to say.
What what why do you say that what you suggest that around.
Well they have these that in the United States navy it's never give up the ship it goes back to John Paul Jones.
And that's the credo well there are extra certain circumstances where things can be different from sticking to that credo.
And one of the problems we had with the amount of intelligence equipment and publications we had on board.
If we scuttle the ship which would have taken two days to scuttle it.
If we scuttle that ship.
It was still violation because it was less than a hundred gallons of water so we were hit -- Nolan a no win situation.
And I was twenty men wounded one dead at that time and the Koreans continuing -- to continuing to just fire at us.
Captain brokers said did he did it through the to save the life from the crew.
And boy you're getting some credit now what you believe occurred navy is not giving you fair credit you deserve what what what do you believe that's the case throughout.
Well the the to hold Pueblo world situation from the time it was before it was even christened in Bremerton Washington all the way through was that the the tragedy of errors.
And including the mission as you said in the opening minutes I was test is minimal risk.
And that -- North Korea's west coast on the east coast I'm sorry on the east coast on the west coast the other side of Korea.
Which borders China our sister ship the USS banner when it went there every mission was -- as hazardous and they were given full protection.
On C and in the air.
We had absolutely none of that because of the minimal risks testing.
-- forty years later you're trying to make up for a little bit of lost time on this -- and I appreciate the attention you're giving of the Pueblo today though.
He's still in court in North Korea.
-- hit his -- talk if ever bringing that back to the US.
There is talk -- the during the Clinton administration in the ship was moved from one son on the east coast around the Korean Peninsula up into the -- Don river in Pyongyang.
But a thousand mile trip through international waters and the Koreans.
Had it there.
And they cleaned it up and made at a tourist attraction made mandatory tourist attraction ahead.
There has been talk since 2004.
We have contacts that say the the Koreans are interested in returning the vessel.
And so that that is ongoing and we will learn more about it during this reunion from some guests we have.
It is one thing that a lot of people do not recall a -- Brooklyn -- thank you for bringing it to our attention on him my best you went.
Your fellow navy ship thanks.
Well thank you Billy really appreciate it can only take care thanks for coming on today.
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