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Embody a matter of minutes out Bernie Madoff will no longer be referred to was excuse for officer will simply be known as a crook and -- might be the nicest word that many of his victims.
We used to describe him we're getting word is set at courthouse you're seeing live of these inside.
The courtroom now Robert -- meanwhile lives in Colorado.
He and his wife lost more than a million dollars to made off.
His in laws lost more than thirty million dollars Robert she was with me now sir good morning to your losses -- Time magazine.
Thank you for your time.
Good spirited -- you wrote a great piece in time magazine and one of the things you say and I'll just -- -- viewers tell us you were sorry mister Madoff that would mean you are human.
And not a monster.
Would you looking for that we want to hear.
Well it's just this strange.
Administrative rights for all of us that involved in this in this kind of that the final chapter but it certainly have to do some closure.
I don't know you know if if you're in the courtroom right now today and here and you look at him out of -- What you can really think except why did you do this.
And what -- please tell us how you do it is so we can stop it from happening to others in the future.
You must invest yourself that question and on a thousand times since December.
Yeah yeah we I think all of us have been you know we've been so busy just trying to get out of their lives that.
We really don't care about mister -- at this point we just want to survive we put our money back of course America to get it albeit.
We we just want to move move forward unfortunately you'll be able to move forward he.
He's going to jail.
There's a suggestion in your answer that you might -- over to some of it.
Oh well is only three ways to get it and that's your taxes recovery.
Through the victory or through lawsuits -- unfortunate we were in a feeder fund.
So it's unlikely there were together they have money from mom.
The good government Peter Fonda is our viewers know in your case it ran out of Los Angeles correct you would give a contact a certain amount of money than they would eventually give it to made often.
You know you you describe that to an article you -- I think back in December where this thought it was all very secretive.
And it it and and it was tough to get into.
And he didn't you say -- looking back was a brilliant strategy.
I'm using your words now to lure suckers.
Yeah a lot of these -- Ponzi schemes.
And other affinity scheme that they're based on sort of heightened sense of trust and secret fitness and you're sort of privilege to get than you think.
And permit us because this -- the ultimate victory he he did this for forty years ago it was -- negated a lot of people try to get and they couldn't get into the mammoth money.
And decade after decade he he returned a lot of money to people so it became call kind of an -- to get into this thing and that was.
One of the the crazy things about this whole.
Pondering your robbers you're talking there in Colorado we're getting our first aerial pictures -- the courthouse and when something moves certainly that's relevant we'll pass it to our viewers back to your article in time magazine.
Quote you kept going deeper into the quicksand of your crime.
All the hard work all the savings all the plans were wiped out forever.
What's a conversation like with your wife to their -- Well frankly.
We both just want to move on and try to forget this I mean you can only be a victim for so long and subtitle that's something like this and it's kind of bookend I kind of started writing for time -- December 15.
When it all -- in this kind of kinda close is that.
There's nothing there's nothing we can do that I think that the key goal here is is what I want to find out.
And they had optical happened today epidemic and that in the weeks and months ahead horrified -- how he did this for so long who was complicit in this.
We may find out some of that today but clearly all the answers may not be review for some time.
Robert thank you for your time okay appreciate you sharing your story my best you and your family out there Colorado okay feel like you could you.
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