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People wonder where they huge cost it has to do -- our government and has to do with how we handled the Christmas Day bomber.
The guy who tried to blow up more than two -- fifty fellow passengers on their point.
Earlier former attorney general and judge -- -- -- went on the record.
That's nice to see is sex.
Good evening Greta thanks for having.
Judge do you agree or disagree.
With attorney general holder's decision any administration's decision to try the Christmas state.
Bomber in criminal courts a civilian criminal court actually Greta I think that's really kind of a secondary question it's not worry ultimately gets tried its.
What we can get from him is value was -- defendant is virtually nil.
And is that because he has been tried as -- promote the -- backed me up a little bit because is is it why do you say that.
Well the fact is that he could be convicted in a criminal court -- can be convicted military tribunal I venture to say that a first year law student.
Could try that case the man committed this crime in front of two -- five witnesses but.
He was sent here by al-Qaeda in Yemen.
He knows who trained -- in those who prepared the bomb he knows who else involved in it was a great deal and the people who sent him know that he knows a great deal as well so it seems to me the thing to have done -- was to taken into custody immediately.
Have been questioned by people who knew something about the subject.
And then worry later on about where it was going to be prosecuted.
-- yeah I think secondary.
-- -- so what was done that do you think was the -- procedure to follow and and what would you advise in the future.
I think there ought to be a protocol for.
Terrorists who were seized in the United States and the or or anywhere in the world and the protocol -- to be that the first issue.
It to consider is what they're worth four intelligence.
And then have them questioned by people who know something about the subject who can debrief -- questions from -- willing to cooperate.
The administration is now -- and also the attorney general is that he is cooperate he is provided valuable information.
Mad city is doing that now.
It is there's some lost opportunity DNN I know the object to the way it was -- but why.
Sure the -- there's.
For two reasons for the -- because minority told.
The people that he's talking about that he's talking about them which diminishes.
Almost to zero the value of what he's given us.
We've lost five weeks is no answer to dig yourself into a whole take five weeks to dig yourself out of it.
And then gradually to self and saying you're you're no worse off for having been in the hole for five weeks.
So the second -- this man the wheels touched down in Detroit what should've been done.
We should have been done -- he should have been taken into the custody of either the bureau.
Or ideally the CIA although of course.
That the president has done away with the CIA interrogation program.
So you need to get people whether from the FBI war from the CIA working through the FBI who -- the subject.
And know something -- al-Qaeda in Yemen it doesn't really do a whole lot of good to have.
of the most hollow as the guy in the room who knows the most about al-Qaeda -- EM wanna have somebody who knows something.
About it as well questioning.
And who can double check it.
Send it out to people in the field.
Get their view on it and possibly come back to him for additional information.
Ward -- contradict.
What he says if he turns out he's providing false information.
Is it your belief that this administration led this attorney general is weakened his approach and putting us at a greater risk by virtue of the method that's been employed but it.
This administration in this instance.
I don't wanna use inflammatory terms like weak and so -- I think it's a mistaken policy I think you can't.
Think -- -- this as a criminal case that's free 9/11 mindset we prosecuted criminal cases before September 11.
After September 11.
The mindset should have changed.
The paradigm should've changed.
And to go back.
Too -- each case as a criminal case rather than as a wartime incident in which your interest in gathering intelligence.
And then concerning yourself with prosecution later on.
That's where I think the errors and I don't wanna start calling people names are saying -- weakened -- I just think there they've got the wrong policy in place.
Well I guess -- now understand and that and I wasn't it doesn't if plants aren't they but it was if someone makes a mistake it would get a Buick that we could differ in and how we think things should be accomplished.
But if the if -- difference of opinion one creates a huge risk for -- and one does not that's very different.
And -- -- saying that he that the current administration is is -- -- a different way than you would do it or this presents a real and imminent problem for our security well.
If you tease this out.
And apply it in the future then it's down -- percent arrest.
Back in the nineties we had something called the -- -- plot in which al-Qaeda planned to blow up several airliners over the Pacific simultaneously.
We don't know that this guy wasn't either test flying a second edition of the voting -- plot.
Or perhaps one of many we certainly didn't know that when he landed.
And to treat.
Each of these things as a one off as it and simply as as a prosecution.
-- could prove very dangerous.
And terms of this case this investigation versus Richard Reid Agassi administration would say.
Is that he was successfully prosecuted but you're pointing back in terms of not so much at the actual prosecution.
But at the arrest and information that can be gathered at that point of custody right correct.
But I and I also think it bears mention that Richard Reid was arrested.
Three months after nine elevenths we didn't have in place the kind of protocols and the kind of procedures.
Or the experience that we have in place now.
And in retrospect it may very well be that the treatment of Richard read it was a mistake but it certainly doesn't recommend repeating mistake judge say very much -- Very welcome.
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