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And Chris van Holland says an essence don't blame me what's he talking about you'll find out in minutes earlier kind of been Ben Howland went on the record about the future of the health care bill.
President Obama said he's not going to depart from the existing two bills the house the Senate and Republicans say that that's not a non starter.
So how -- we -- good traction -- get a real discussion and dialogue going to the two sides.
Seem to be and -- by I think what we have.
To do is just agree on the objectives.
That we've got and what the president has said his objective is to make sure that we.
Bring down premiums.
That we deal with the health care in a way that reduces the deficit and that we cover many people who -- not cover today because at the end of the day.
There are costing all of us more in the system because they're going to the hospital emergency rooms for their first line of preventative care as opposed to getting.
I health care.
Through their primary care doctors since most people do so.
If we can agree on what the objectives are then we should be of the move forward in the bills that we passed in the house and senate.
I meet their objectives that have been set out by the president and also I must say the objectives of some of our colleagues on the Republican side said that they want to meet as well.
But this -- -- a no starter because that's not the way the Republicans feel they say okay we did that bill passed in you know the president had to.
The White House to congress and a filibuster proof senate still could get past that's.
It's not particularly attractive in the polls are going down so is it really so smart to draw a line in the sand and say that's who we start.
Well but the polls show.
-- is that most the American people like the components.
There in the house and the Senate bill.
What happened is in the negotiations that went back and forth and -- that special deal they put in in the Senate for the Nebraska deal which even senator Nelson says he doesn't want.
Now people got understandably upset about some of the provisions that were in the bill.
The deal making I think that if we can take a step back and focus on the major components which the public does like.
Then we can begin to move forward and I think the votes would be there in the Senate clearly the presence expressed an interest in getting Republicans.
On board but he also has said that the main thing we need to do is get health care reform done.
In a way that serves -- interest the American people bringing down the cost.
You mentioned the ad deal senator Ben Nelson -- in the -- and of course I'm not say your party your in the house but -- What do you think when that went down when you heard about the -- their -- about the special deal for Nebraska did you know at that point like oh now we got trouble.
None of us thought that was a good idea in fact senator Nelson says that was not.
Now says he says is not his idea and he broke the president saying.
He doesn't want to take that approach yet that's the kind of thing that raises questions in the mind of the public and understandably.
So you shouldn't have special deals that benefit.
I just one state exclusion of others and I think that is created.
Part of the problem with the perception of the bill which is why I think it's important get back to the fundamentals about what we're trying to accomplish reduce premiums bring down the deficit.
I try and expand.
Coverage in a way that prevents all of us from having to pick up the tab.
For the people that don't have that today.
But it's still hard to understand whether this is -- these are great bills are not when there's a lot of mystery is so assuming they're very they're huge number of pages.
You get the president meeting last summer behind closed door with the drug industry.
You've got the special -- to senator Ben Nelson you've got the special deal for a labor union.
Now this will be televised will you urge the president to explain the deal -- why the drug industry got the special -- explain why the the unions get a special bill.
Well I think the president said it's committed to transparency in this process and now now to be fair credit to be fair this has been.
When the most open and transparent processes in the history congressional in the house legislative in the house and -- the Senate and seaspan has always been part of -- -- in the house and in the Senate.
But the promise of some of the deals and as transplant -- are some important deals -- transparent.
Well some of the deals that were supposedly cut by the White House were actually not.
Followed by the house I mean we went about putting the other bill that we thought.
Met the needs of the American people when it came to health care so.
Whatever deals may have been made earlier in the process.
In the house we started from scratch and so don't blame you don't don't and you get out well in the house to start from scratch we had our -- here is we have the markup they were all televised -- -- on C span.
Some amendments the Republicans -- -- some failed so went through the normal process but.
I think it is a good idea to have everybody together at the White House to have that kind of exchange of ideas.
That the president a Republican conference had recently in Baltimore.
And let me just a planet and I'm not when in the house so what happens in the Senate but it happens at the White House you know in terms of transparency -- that the -- -- -- yes I'm not playing vet that.
I -- now have public option.
Well in the house we really wanted to have a public option -- deserve greater competition and choice I think it's clear that it wasn't gonna fly in the Senate.
So unfortunately that's not likely to be part of the package.
Out in terms of it ultimate bill and the money that's about the February 12 25 -- what -- the ads that does something is gonna come out of that.
Is going to be served so we can on Graham.
Well we all hope that that exchange of ideas will move the process forward obviously we don't know until everybody gets and the room together and says.
Now here here's the way we want to move forward and you know what ideas are.
Acceptable what are not acceptable but the president has made it clear that he thinks that the house and senate bills are good starting point.
With the exception of you know taking out some of these provisions like the special Nebraska -- which he has said.
Doesn't belong in the -- -- there so if we can take out.
Those provisions that have understandably created the greatest concern and then work with -- Republican colleagues to try to include.
Some of the provisions that they want.
Then -- -- a good place I should point out that a lot of Republican amendments were included in the Senate bill.
A number were included in the house bill and a lot of concepts that they've proposed are already embedded in these bills.
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