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Of wonderful young and Jonathan crone our friend mr.
-- who has just joined us hi Jonathan how are you.
I -- find myself I agree with everything I see you look like you get a little can even felt this -- -- -- I can jump in here but I certainly be a chance to I'm just this morning by Ellis Henican and David Webb of my thinking about that that.
And that I think at that point -- in the strategy room.
Jonathan -- against her thoughts.
It's kind of the next generation.
Young Republicans if you will.
There are moderates in your party who feel like -- there's no room for them.
Where -- they go vs the conservatives like if Sarah -- with appearing now.
-- I think first and foremost there are places for moderates in the party.
I mean there are certain places where the republic -- -- Republican Party has talent open primaries and conservatives have lost and moderate to more.
And that's fine that's how the party system works.
But I don't think we need to alienate either conservatives or moderates from the party if we do that we automatically give -- to the Democrat party that's just how the party system works once again.
So he really need to make sure that you don't try to alienate consider Republican Party and the conservative movement within the Republican Party into its own little section.
That's not how we need to run things you can not win the nobody's won a third party you won't somebody collapse but the majority of individuals.
And in a general election cannot win on the third party it needs to be run on a -- on a two party system.
Keep -- I'm going but make sure that becomes more conservative if -- conserve enough do what you can there are -- I would say this having lived in Minnesota you talk about third parties Jesse Ventura -- part of the time that I lived in that stage.
Was governor but it didn't translate beyond that Jonathan and I can see exactly if it's a lot of people -- kind of taking it and it's like well that's almost -- -- -- for that I have -- I have a question.
About that this goes to the point he just made.
You mentioned becoming more conservative do you -- do you split the difference between social conservatism.
And all the forms of conservatism.
Sure I see here's the problem that's common to the Republican Party.
You have some people would say there's a pure conservatism.
And then there's an island here conservatism.
And then there's this -- -- and if that's not how the Republican Party -- -- going to be divergent after -- Republican Party.
And the conservative movement that's just how it is I challenged a different views you have economic conservative view of social conservative -- -- seeing conservatives.
You have -- neo conservative view of neo conservatives you have.
You probably got to bear Republican Party and that's great he -- it diversity and -- get divergent aspects in the debate.
Please follow me follow the junk that's been done I think you're actually right about this don't you join me.
And saying it's really dull -- considers to do things like drive us to go far Balladur -- light up light like David.
Good to be mean I.
Congressman I would.
I don't yeah I'm gonna say.
I don't think it's -- to -- was the best choice for the candidate.
Because they didn't have an open primary in New York that's just how they did it -- was wrong.
And Doug Hoffman had a good chance if he had been put up against -- bobbled an open primary in new York and they didn't do that.
-- and let the numbers weren't wait a minute I -- I'm planning unit that this -- -- legend Doris.
-- numbers involved in Doug Hoffman initially before the outside influences came -- gave him seven to 10%.
And win this fight started between she.
And -- and was way that mold when it came down to the primary is a symbol indicator of the difference in the two.
It's -- thought the wind Hoffman when she dropped out and often that got the nod.
To go up in the final run.
He did not even have a ground game ready to work in the district this was an outside influence race and this is part of -- and I think.
-- -- you got to understand.
Is that the party had already endorsed -- Obama by the time.
Doug Hoffman was making his big pushes I mean he was only 3% behind -- -- -- Newt Gingrich endorsed her and he said to Doug Hoffman had no chance.
I'm a big supporter of the speaker and I think he was right thing -- -- moderates in the party we don't need to alienate them.
But -- think the main problem was that Doug Hoffman had an opportunity.
Lies and numerically he actually was pretty close to counsel filed in the long run.
So I don't think that it isn't her why do you.
As usual in the purges and while you drive everyone out who wins and a 100%.
Each green right wing though I really meant Libya I.
It's -- but let me let me ask for a definite -- I don't think that I never from your from your point of view from your point -- -- -- You said.
The party needs to be more conservative -- you -- more socially conservative former conservative across the board.
Because that's a key definition and that's the battling.
That's the battle going out of the Republican Party right now where we have Sean Hannity and Coulter and a number of other people you know public faces of the not in the part of -- London based on these leaders gathered up the party leaders are public faces that speak for a lot of conservatives who -- I -- conservative.
Not a Republican and he says it clearly ought to show so what happens perceptual -- across the country and this is what's happening in states like manager okay.
If they see conservatives like having a social only -- I yeah I let.
I think we need to do -- we need to make winning to a Bob McDonald -- Virginia as a party.
When he did get to the solutions on the big issues that Americans are very interested and health care economics.
Those are the big issues that Americans are the most interested in when it comes to the polls ended without.
Why didn't you mention health care -- why isn't that the Republicans waited so long to come up with the room who they did.
Well -- had.
Eight pills before Nancy Pelosi came out with 8096 -- -- others.
Eight other wells I asked battle -- to get you to say what you just said so then my next question is whether public relations on -- If you know if they can have a hundred -- -- how come people that don't know about -- how secure the mainstream media -- yeah.
Sure I saw all over in certain areas if you have to look for a because the mainstream media wasn't very interested.
In talking about republic outlet -- John another here's the reality the Republicans and you understand this I think David thinks this is Smart politics but have have fashioned themselves as the party of no right.
Barack Obama was elected to do some stuff.
Spent on holiday David it -- police.
Obama was elected guys could do some things I think you -- -- -- approval of those things you don't like those things.
But when he starts doing them if only answer from Republicans is no no no not a single vote for the stimulus not a single vote for for health care.
-- battle but you know that's not a good -- voted democratic.
-- -- -- Has -- something that's very important in this though.
If the insert the correct answer is no it is the right answer now to there are always good when you -- -- -- -- question I -- to.
-- is going to -- to harris' question.
About -- and -- the republic.
It took to the Republican PR machine it failed miserably.
The Republicans have had a horrible.
PR machine I said it you've heard me say -- in this in this studio and before over the past year.
If the Republicans put the bill put it out to the public if you can't get it through the committee in the house put out publicly say this is our solution.
They have failed miserably do all right so how is that going to change going forward -- do you see it.
And while it it needs to change and I think slowly but surely we're seeing -- Are you see the GOK -- -- -- -- Pelosi has said we were all waiting to see that the house version of the bill before it went for a vote.
Remember what the president promised that there is sending -- around out there.
She -- no way or even if it's happening to our through this is a chance for the GOP to stand up and say yeah -- -- something that -- -- -- speaker of the house won't do we're gonna show you what we got and let that be word of mouth.
Well I I think fit -- GOP tried to do that I mean like my friend and -- fellow Georgian representative Tom price.
He came out with -- -- and an amazing bill a long time ago in opposition to the original HR 3200.
But what happened was.
Is when he tried to go on other on opposing news media such as NBC CBS and ABC he would not get in the same air time that the the big.
Democrat -- was given so.
I think that the problem is -- -- Born and it -- of the bill.
Not -- you're our guy out of a lot on the wing and you think we should devote half the -- of.
-- No I don't think so I just think that.
It needs it or going to give we're going to claim -- there are especially if the mainstream -- gonna claim that from non bias it needs to give.
Equal all it needs to get some opportunity.
To the opposition and there were eight bills you can have all the bills on -- if you want creeping -- whichever one you -- but couldn't but the mainstream media -- a horrible job applying those.
And -- have of the Republican Party and they did every time I heard Tom price.
Argent and amend or any conservative or any Republican that gone on the on the air on one of the Sunday shows -- -- to say we have alternatives.
But the problem was as they they did the media didn't really give them.
Like -- think Jonathan is that for the longest time the Democrats didn't have a billionaire.
So I thought bias when I would watch it just kind of a hometown player occasionally even though I work in news I do still watches -- you are.
I -- -- -- -- I think we'll have a built right now we know this is earlier this summer and the power bill was the thinking that without there and it wasn't being talked about again I have my question to see -- maybe PR was the difficulty government bond.
Will quickly if we can -- road ahead in the senate for health care bill what do you think is gonna happen next with the health care bill done and.
Well I think it's going to be hard it depends it all dependable people like Joseph Lieberman have the deciding vote in this bill in the senate.
What he does end and it's Olympia Snowe and some of the more -- moderate Republicans actually end up.
Jumping ship if they do within it looks like that it looks like the bill will pass in the united in the that looks like the senate held in the senate version will pass in the United States senate.
However you've also got a couple of moderate Democrats here in there and you've got the independents like Joseph Lieberman are the independent minded as well.
Have not truly committed either way.
There's going to be a couple there's going to be a few weeks I had before the senate actually I think will go for its own vote.
And it's going to be used up primarily I think for arm twisting in the offices of Harry Reid and the Oval Office itself.
So what we can see it looks right now -- it's going to be a tough bill I don't think the Democrat to get the sixty votes.
I think that a filibuster -- most likely will occur.
But the question is how long Republicans can hold out.
I Terry will pass writing this email.
Not for the American people they are not doing health care on behalf of the American people they are doing it for their own political power and control in the united citizens.
Thank you very much for your email Terri and read the whole -- has -- a -- but I wanted to get the -- -- -- in there.
It doesn't help the book coming.
I just finished for the bucket comes out in stores February 23 and the title.
Defining conservatism the principles that we'll take our country back.
And it can be.
It can be ordered on Amazon Barnes & Noble border's Books-A-Million.
And just make a point in my book I really don't try to focus on one divergent aspect -- conservatism.
My goal in the book is to focus on basic philosophy that -- unites the conservative movement.
And -- being able to use that to create solutions.
And that's how Bob McDonnell won in Virginia and that's how Chris Christie won in New Jersey.
Because people are tired of hearing simple ideology is coming out and that's all that you talk about you can't do that.
You can't win on that.
People want working solutions.
Bob McDonnell campaigned on solutions it would bring back jobs.
-- cutting taxes on balancing the budget and Chris Christie campaigned on lowering taxes and -- saying how the Democrats and Jon Corzine hadn't done that in Virginia when they promised to lower property taxes.
So I think of what the Republican Party has had -- -- as has started to a great job this year.
It during the tour during the Tuesday elections.
I think what they did a great job of doing is they campaigned on that new GOP PR machine if you -- -- use that example it created a new kind of campaign for the Republican Party to embrace.
Where we campaign on the solutions and used that as our basic idea for the Republican Party.
-- think what you say I was actually in Charlottesville Virginia the weekend before the elections that just you know what 48 hours before everybody went to vote.
And I saw -- distinctive collision of and the ads on television their locally.
And -- you know.
Aside from all of the political things you just said one thing that really stuck out.
In my mind about the Bob McDonald adds vs -- the Democrat in the race was that they were.
We're not very positive -- almost motivation yeah I mean is exactly and and it wasn't so much what all the political party wasn't is that they made -- feel good when you're and that's an interesting point if if the Republican Party and if that's the new PR.
That that's right that becomes the good -- Leyland and I absolutely.
Right that is in the moderate argument he made -- very and the problem is that it conflicts with all the -- things going in the party the driving should -- -- mountain.
-- -- and Perry Ellis.
-- and we've got.
-- encouraging to me Groupon and it's I mean you'll talk moderation but then you go around.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I don't stayed on point when he has a point you're you're good at that -- yeah so most -- that -- good at it look.
Want to try to drive the argument back to what fits in the Huffington Post world of the Daily -- world of driving moderates out the -- -- Harris brought up the point of Virginia vs New Jersey.
In Virginia you have -- mintel I cultural -- it's a little different they tied closely to Washington DC.
A referendum on the incumbent was more for referendum on.
What the Democrats have -- -- hole.
And what great -- could -- couldn't do.
In New Jersey was a clear referendum on -- which -- and then some twenty points yeah to have somebody who's been involved in campaigns against Corzine since two.
Six a more aware of this -- three I.
Say this because I live in New Jersey I would say it is too thin people kind of understanding Saddam the independents really pulled John -- a lot of Democrats who voted against John Cordell what in your motor voter.
Reg guide that the story and I haven't been coming -- -- you -- hey.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I knew I was he might not know that hello -- I don't know -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Jonathan Jonathan paperwork over Jonathan -- -- a signal to that to finish arsenal right here but this is important.
If you look at the key break outs in New Jersey then the Democrats didn't turn out in areas like Camden county new work -- six -- IQ there is.
It was a referendum on the incumbent where Democrats stayed home in Hudson County but.
And whereas more idiotic and some voted no way -- -- that I -- are going to end Chris jagged wound up 5% of the votes in the end couldn't figure -- -- -- -- easier but he didn't have much of an effect as the men that -- just.
The independent -- that we're shifting to -- get wind shifted back and again.
39 plus 250% of -- -- going to Kristy and -- ticker at the OK Jonathan your.
Yeah I just make a point here.
I think fit.
In in response to our friend over there who's saying that we want to drive the moderates out.
I I you have to understand anybody in the party that wants to win and I agree you have to understand.
Hit the majority of Americans are not conservatives there's forty -- not vote will be recent Gallup poll -- only 40% of conservatives.
And that there -- more in -- there -- even more independents than there are liberals.
So whoever wins of independence when the election and the -- it but the -- it we did.
At Virginia and New Jersey and other -- -- very different Jersey once again like are -- that and I'm a woman have to stop because we're gonna lose -- off the -- the satellite's gonna drop and I don't -- haven't happened when you're in the middle of your sentence because I want to be able to say thank you.
And how much we adore you we want to have you back thank you so much Jonathan Cronin.
-- -- -- fourteen.
-- -- I'll be turning fifteen in March that I know today I celebrate yours I don't celebrate mine anymore.
I don't know I think we'll see you next time all right --
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