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You find in your line of work that when -- cameras rolling -- something this -- something and that's a documentary -- not scripted.
Not that capable we'll say.
When the cameras rolling no usually.
I find that when -- cameras going most people arm are.
Very much aware of how they're coming across and even if they appear to be open.
Even if they appear to be confessional.
Particularly when that telling the name of the -- I always know that a person is totally full of it.
When he starts acting as if the host and here friends and they've known each other the years when they met six minutes -- -- -- hello Dave yet it will I'm glad yes it.
There are always thinking how they're coming across what is fascinating the US funny guys like us to the hosts we love that yes hi Ali you'll be home watching it with your -- -- You were bubble yet teams that -- -- there it -- how cool was that at a and in reality it's a way of pretending to -- but expensive -- attending any of -- city and it's not fair.
What whereas what I think happened -- my kids he's got somebody voice is going on in his head.
Which stemmed from his flip out in solitary confinement which he talks about a movie when he went crazy while it was itself Perez who wouldn't.
The voices are still going.
And some of them are stronger than others and you -- often see in the movie that -- struggling to get out one voice clearly.
It's as if he's saying to himself a minute who crushed those and at least I'll get one -- And he doesn't even have time to censor it to -- -- just to get one out it is clear.
Is enough of the struggle and often they'll say something that contradicts a thirty seconds later -- was -- all these other voices that are ready to come out like a good.
-- example of that was when you were talking about.
The rape conviction he said.
You know I take advantage of other women but just not her right right ready you know what -- -- well you know that's it I -- it in the the it I think often.
He himself is -- sure what exactly what he means by what he says it's coming out and it's not that he doesn't mean it it's that it's.
Parallel reality with six other realities he does vehemently -- -- be the rate of that very Washington and in fact over the years.
Has always even when the united talking alone spoken with the kind of vehemence that makes you feel wise he bothered to deny it to me -- ten years later.
And in fact one time said to me if if if I -- her -- every act of sex I've ever had in my life was also a rate that's that this was ridiculous price you've known him since 1999.
So did you think after you've earned a final editing session.
Do I really want to do this is a -- thing you know we're it was a -- part of you that said I have a conflict of interest here.
Now because I didn't die I might goal was to do a portrait of self portrait of Mike Tyson.
Filtered through -- aesthetic which is what it is indeed gives him the opportunity to portray himself in the same way that painting you say.
Gold down event go Rembrandt and they have a self portrait well that's not a photograph.
And it's not necessarily a naturalistic painting it's their version of themselves this is Mike Tyson's version of himself.
Some techniques that I wanted to use like split screens moving images multiple voices which to me just enhance the portrait because.
You know he's got multiple personality -- he's got a lot of voices going on so.
I structured the movie in a way that enhances his story but basically it's his story in his own words.
Our last question almost two more questions.
About the film.
You end with the sound of his breathing right.
Now is that something you'd you'd discovered in -- -- did I discovered it when we when I heard it.
Just before we started shooting he sat down on the couch and the relaxed position he was and I position myself behind the minute cycle analysts role where I just kind of throw out ideas and let him go and going go.
And I put my ear phones on and I hear.
I'm thinking what is that and I look over and Mike had just been Mike and I mean I realize that he has.
And I thought.
That's going to be the end of the movie and I'm so happy to find the end of the movie beginning beginning expert five minutes later he mentioned having lung problems as a kid probably childhood as though he wouldn't go to doctor to get diagnosed.
But he talks about being in the hospital -- everyone surrounding him and always having breathing problems.
And hoping that he would -- early knock outs when he became a fighter because -- he knew he didn't have the lung capacity to sustain them.
It was one of the most fascinating things that we've got it as far as a kid.
And what happens is you're a constant state of near panic because even -- humanity having an asthmatic attack all the time you don't know in the next was -- -- com.
When you're three for five years old you don't know what to make -- -- -- -- and you can't read your.
-- and people can say it's okay it puts steam and all the rest of the year the terrified and I think.
I said that to him -- we shot that day has it ever occurred to you.
That all of that panic in the rage that comes out of that the you've had in your life stems from when you were having trouble breathing you when you're a kid.
And he said I I had thought about it he said but it makes sense to me now.
-- original screenplay for but Steve you've direct ability -- you really what are you guys credited to be the driving force behind -- based career.
Did you ever think that a guy you met 1985 and became the champion of the world boxer who went off the deep end who's.
Basically why the known as -- psychopath.
We'll bring you an Oscar because there's no doubt in my mind you can -- the Oscar.
I I want -- I don't want to hold you morally and financially responsible for that statement.
It did not occur to me then.
I really it's like I felt a connection with him but the first time I thought.
He will be great on film was when we had lunch after he got out of prison.
And I already was gonna talk about being in black and white because of his relations -- Wu tang clan.
But it was.
What had happened to -- -- prison that made him this -- -- film worthy subject.
Because all of a sudden he understood madness he understood these voices he had this that pain in a way.
I think the most harrowing representation.
Of prison I've ever seen or heard is in this movie would Mike Tyson talk about what it's like to -- -- a maximum security prison.
And you think.
If that's what might -- Mike Tyson went through in maximum security prison I'm gonna be hiding inside the area before I let myself go.
And that to me.
Prepared him to be truly powerful screen presence -- -- from being a pretty good talker and being kind of glib in his own voice and having a wealth of fascinating experiences and being Hui was he now -- the suffering.
To make it a complete picture -- you feel that all through the film you feel it's to fuse with the kind of suffering.
That wasn't really there until he went through that three and a half years in prison where it it.
I mean I know whether you felt that that just hearing the descriptions of what it was like being in there and talking about being in a six by eight foot cell.
Light flashing in your face 23 hours a day -- -- a corner.
What what I mean what could be worse talk about Guantanamo whatever the hell I mean.
I mean what torture is worse than than what he went through and maximum security -- -- all -- period prisoners doing and maximum security prisons.
What they say about this interview -- like pulling teeth with you.
-- -- All right that's it for this edition of fox fight game this is -- and I think -- so much as -- the movie's called Tyson is a documentary and two girls and -- guy comes out on Blu-ray.
September September more.
Yeah right until next time I'm Mike Straka into -- thanks.
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