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And never heard of puts a nicely is when you said contingent -- entrusted with political liberties.
I like to think and I know you do because you're a student of American politics in American history but that's the whole theory behind.
The American constitution the government doesn't create the liberties the government doesn't give the liberties liberties -- hours.
They come from our humanity we give a little bit of liberty to the government.
So that it can do what it needs to do to protect the liberties.
Of the rest of us.
But but in the case of the British parliament correct me if I'm wrong.
Members of parliament don't even have offices with large stats.
Like we do here in order to encourage them to get the people's business done and London and then get the -- home.
No that's right and what.
One of the very bad things that have come out of the discontent the beloved couple of weeks.
Is that they even more in the mood to play.
You should not have any thought about but interest you know that that does that the labor party just -- through as an active little bit of a a modification to the rule that says he'd let you do well -- all of you now the reality woodgate development.
Politicians are in the -- out there.
Everything they do is assumed to be wrong and people in content and connect quickly because that silently told them that -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Michael -- that the country you know.
Simultaneously true either the guy at 2 o'clock the -- -- -- -- in the real world.
-- -- Is among small accurate.
That summary of -- our country has gone wrong at the little people really like.
-- -- But out -- country would be the -- -- that lay behind you can retrieve.
Contract with America which could be a problem and I'm I'm looking -- -- -- -- that -- -- it -- it.
Trying to return to the idea of the kind of amateur politician.
And there was a proposal that will limit the with a proposal that limited budget -- -- I hope that measures that we're about divulging.
And making the congressman more comfortable downward that I constituents probably -- -- that that prompted -- an example we needed that we -- -- contract with -- We need a new that a politician who -- -- It is not a look at than the things that went up to try -- the lead at the power we are intending to put how is outlook and outlook and we gonna do you would think we're gonna do that and we're gonna do it better -- going to be at.
Oh they'll shift in power from the executive to the legislature of more important from the let to particular people.
The the -- contract with America never came to -- with the exception of members of congress having two.
I have deducted from their incomes the same proportion to pay Social Security is the rest of us.
The rest of the remaining part of the contract with America particularly.
Term limits particularly applying the rest of the laws that congress writes for the rest of us to the congress itself never came to pass.
Critical thing -- and I'm.
At the time reading some American public the truth of that you know how look how lucky of these guys that they think anyone's interest to people that you -- you know it's such a beltway.
People in this on the -- this all.
Make congress look into the -- of the criminal we have any -- lack -- Colorado of that argument that you believe it'll come out -- that could boot to the and it that the current political crisis.
If the parliament popped the freedom of information.
Which allows people to go off to any document.
Retrospectively and that we want publication of this.
Of course people that you thought that we would like details of everything that MPs have -- on their expenses.
It became clear about what was -- with the happening.
And even try to -- themselves from that was just the department amendment they.
The tournament -- lack of public excitement of the parliament.
I thought looked -- diplomat they did a similar thing that popped -- the -- discrimination act which outlawed any kind.
And win the popular try to -- -- -- women shortly.
They're able to get more -- in parliament -- -- challenge could put political -- from them.
Legislation I think if you look at the record the -- -- an open book.
Again and again people -- the politician popping -- and then by the exempting themselves extra.
Italy or multiplying it through.
-- -- -- -- -- -- I took away from the idea that the person who popped that little thought to be at that doesn't look -- -- -- -- because it does have probably he has got a mandate for a temporary period that that the legislative.
What we have a principal the American constitution called equal protection which requires the government.
To treat people similarly situated in a similar manner.
But like the British parliament the government frequently exempts itself treating its own employees.
From those -- regulations my colleague surely -- joins us.
Throughout each hour of freedom march on Wednesdays and receives emails and receives the -- From those who would like to engage in the conversation is with us Charlie welcome back to freedom watch and you've been working for the -- -- -- forgive me.
For not welcoming you on air and on screen until now thanks for all your good work are there any.
Have questions or comments that you've received.
For our member of the European Parliament Daniel -- on the line with us now from England.
Yet why can't you.
Today and the British national party.
And from from the -- Background and it looks like we use the spending and -- definitely potentially gain from -- I had an insider what's your reaction.
And what that -- -- -- So the question Daniel is the British national party what is it.
What's your reaction to it and what will be the political reaction if -- gains any seats.
National policy he.
Is that you particularly described in the country and on the -- in the US that he can pick -- the ticket and public.
They'd party all the spotlight and it is that.
I think semantic trick as the kind played by corporate and -- -- PH.
It is not a pockets -- like it is the party of the far left to be racist.
It's the pocket on a -- legislation.
All I attack is taking -- industry having worked with council to run it it Republican Party.
And the Monica you know and it won't.
It -- person to be an old topic.
It also happened to be.
At least that spot if it is defined in the nationality in Britain in ethnic rather -- -- them which.
While a tradition as it would be the -- political party of the that.
Would have been a great impact on now that and -- -- create a more.
That group of freedom -- time.
That action in the economy and trade all socialism.
Played brilliantly made in on the road to lead in the league is the reason that the battle between mount these and -- -- -- As he convincingly prove it because a battle between -- that.
Ideology that a Google the state and diminish the individual.
And a little bit of difference between that -- an appeal the the ideology that the government is it like and the individual that long it's common to both that the but -- -- And ethnic when they made you because that kind of -- that are making from which shell and everybody else in I don't think primitive and that.
Attracted by that -- that both look.
Look at a number of those has been called the regarded.
Effective way of looking to get that the other two -- and every time bases the mainstream politicians think beat them by the depression partly built.
Both of them that says okay what about what you find them and -- -- that's exactly what -- do.
Big party and not and hope.
I think we're talking about getting you know maybe to a repeat -- -- -- oh in the country we do we dependent budget and we -- uniform and trying to boot liberate that equitable.
I want to thank you -- I want to bring in my.
Colleagues and good friends Lew Rockwell.
And Tom woods.
From the -- institute and -- album a little and Tom welcome back.
Two freedom watch it's interesting the conversation.
I hope you had a chance to pick up the tail end of it.
That I have been having with that with -- and then about the relationship.
Between that fascism and socialism and time that I talked about that this morning.
On my radio show Brian -- the judge it was only about three or four months ago that we were calling all of this.
Fascism private ownership.
And government control the government -- some stock and some of these banks under this crazy unconstitutional TARP program.
And as a result of the acquisition of that stock it took the position that it could get control -- management.
The government -- some money to General Motors and as a result of those loans -- that that it could fire it could fire management to make basic decisions now.
Now we see.
In only -- two weaker period of time.
The government wants -- taking major -- ownership position in Chrysler.
And a majority.
Ownership position in General Motors are we going.
From what appeared to be the free market.
To what is clearly fascism to what is obviously socialism.
In a period of three weeks.
It's unbelievable it's hard to believe he meant by that how critical we -- and let -- -- and with good reason it's hard to believe that.
Scope and the speed of the -- And certainly good yeah obviously.
And show them and I realized that he used that term and people think you're just.
He looked over -- but there are technical definitions of these and when you combine good stuff the the economic aspect -- -- things like who -- you know Rahm Emanuel you know.
Students took them program whatever it is yeah.
You know on the right wing -- they want to draft you into the military during peacetime or whatever they -- that there's.
Is whether the left version of fascism -- the -- version of fashion.
Fashion amid all the presumption that -- most exalted thing you can do is give you like the state who you know whether that little feel it welfare division at the Dayton direct all and that that.
Actually remember really got -- ideologues.
-- -- round after World War I win a lot of Italians and others came to the conclusion that we'll.
I -- just look because we work together we put a different.
That's why we all came together under the wonderful uniting banner at the and until we need to do now in peacetime and -- the economy in that way where -- -- with each other -- just collaborate under the wonderful.
Suitably creepy -- see this.
Creeping into our own country.
Lou does anybody seriously make the argument.
That General Motors which is already received between seventeen and twenty billion.
Which is been promised by the government as part of this pre packaged as they call it -- hate that phrase.
Because it impairs the independence of the federal judiciary that nevertheless the pre -- Bankruptcy they're going to get another thirty billion and then some people even some of our free market colleagues are saying you know under their own theory.
Even that's not enough it's going to be another twenty billion a year has -- argued.
That GM could ever make enough cars sufficiently.
And sell enough cars profitably.
That I -- a lifetime of anyone watching this show it would pay that money back to the -- No of course they don't actually.
It too they don't want it to -- -- it.
Of that as an effect part of the federal government and I'm very little about productivity from the post office of the Pentagon are hard or HHS or any of -- than the rest of the alphabet from hell -- a little about productivity.
So that -- GM will forever be protected from having after having a little off but they're they'll continue to -- -- but on the taxpayer.
It's really frightening development into the have aspect of both socialism.
And fascism as -- -- pointed -- Tom I think -- it's it's going to get to the Amtrak model I think the government.
Because of the pressures put on by people like Barney Frank and and Chris -- and I'm not just picking on Democrats they happen to be in power at the moment.
But a lot of the starter and Republicans Richard Nixon nationalize the railroads under under Amtrak and George Bush started with -- -- With the -- nonsense but when Nixon nationalized.
-- he actually said.
This is only going to last about three years and then we'll sell it to investors.
Ian -- it will be it will be profitable.
I think hey -- is right nobody.
Even the -- the grandest of steamers here wherever that may be pushing all the stuff behind the scenes.
Could possibly argue that this is ever going to be paid back but be here -- my fear.
And tell me what you think of this the government tilting the playing field.
To help its its creatures they -- the companies that it owns.
Perhaps it would give a tax credit if you buy -- Chevrolet which would make it infinitely less expensive for consumer to buy something from government motors.
That would from -- You -- Mercedes or even Ford the other American company that the government wouldn't be patch -- rising and favoring how could.
-- free market corporation.
Compete with the governments corporations.
One the government can write rules to favor its own.
Well my inclination is that it would be the same way in which the private school.
Compete with the government schools is that it.
It's much harder for them because they have to compete with somebody that can offer.
People a deal that they themselves could never.
But at the same -- the government school.
-- effect willing to pay twice to go get a private education so I think it.
And -- mentioned on your radio program today the article -- -- so ago in The Wall Street Journal by the guy who was.
Are under chuck chuck chuck -- Romania and the point after the courts -- look.
Cars they produced we're just so crummy you.
Mobile but nobody wanted to -- likewise the more the government is involved in the more.
GM have to follow the dictates of the and because of Barney Frank and you know and Chris Dodd bill bill left it's gonna be producing -- anybody want the got a little need government help.
I believe that -- deteriorating quality and so there will be at least that advantage that other people.
Daniel Hannan is still on with a C of course is the member of the European Parliament who staunchly.
Defense on the other side of the Atlantic what -- and Tom.
And I and Shelly and most people on the show do our best to defend done on this side -- -- -- you surprise.
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