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-- we do have mark Stephens the lawyer for Julian a song is joining us by telephone from London good morning -- my first question to you.
Today is Julian day's sitting behind bonds in London right now not something he's -- to how is he coping without.
Well 88 and an enormous.
48 and and -- coming home that's.
Moral compass compass don't -- anything being fine.
He's very -- -- you can imagine in the second sound cynical he's not -- see it on bald.
-- You know admit he would say that he.
-- that the justice system will seem like contention that.
-- your next haring I believe is next choose -- what happens to fold and when -- you get to see him.
We have been told that we wouldn't be looked into until the day before -- got here and then that we wouldn't on to -- -- -- The president has been in -- -- -- -- Offered -- an appointment tomorrow unfortunately.
That'll that is particularly helpful because that we don't have the papers yet from the Swedish authorities -- we can't take instructions on and I think yet.
We don't really begin preparing our case until -- get a sneak.
Documents because one of the critical thing.
That the jobs to decide -- he wants to do look at the nature of the evidence says that he couldn't this solid.
On whether it is that he should be kept in custody alone all you'll appreciated and indeed jobs looking at a -- Decide whether someone.
-- you gonna get -- I'm Paul took the decision that -- -- that is.
-- -- date taken the evidence that basically and in this case the judge is effectively being helped make that decision blind because I'm gonna be evident in government.
Now -- you have been said before to me and two others that you believe.
This is not a bad alleged sex crimes in Sweden this is about pressure from the US explain exactly how you think that is working.
Well I've loaded into this thing.
Michael Nikkei is the will go on television and it yes today.
He said that quite explicit played that very often you hold.
Somebody on the -- -- you don't necessarily expect them they expect to prosecute or indeed ocracoke biggest hole below the the big problems come along and you get it ready.
I suspect that that's.
Michael Mukasey left the cap battled back with that's what we suspected all along.
And indeed today in London the paper -- splashing and on the front page is pleased.
-- what appears to be sold -- within the Swedish in the US government's -- of contracts that play how.
Being in secret tool.
Pull one croissants to be candidate -- -- the United States want to get to -- So your suggesting -- Sweden is acting as a puppet of the United States government.
As an -- for the first time I mean we remember that many people will with -- that Sweden -- -- that is satellite state.
Would soon -- he's told the extraordinary rendition torture applied.
That was the sort of the way -- if you like.
Put those kinds of -- again it is six.
The -- -- -- that got a very.
Placed connections on that.
Along the tables and got women coming out of -- -- demonstrates.
Just some of how -- that is connections talk.
Between the -- and the Americans are a lot.
The it's not too big to be skeptical about this for the US to pressure Sweden a country that doesn't particularly need anything.
It's not rich in reality it com actually be that easy.
We give a lot of weapons and a lot of aid to -- -- we get something from -- -- we give a lot of -- a lot of weapons to Israel we get something from that.
Walk really are we gonna promise the Swedes that will put the Nobel Peace Prize sermon on primetime TV.
I may have to be cynical you don't -- I I think reg -- more than not I think -- -- -- incredibly close political prize.
The right wing in Sweden is very close -- the Republican Party in the year the United States.
We have to remember that these -- got back at all just -- few years but certainly.
Era the Cold War -- -- -- the Swedish oil was used for.
This big -- stunned.
-- warning system upload pointing up the Soviet bloc I mean that's.
Attitude real big satellite states which we use -- on -- most Sweden and the other was Turkey.
Less than -- cool they had fled to Sweden the they're getting south.
And -- to the turkeys that.
You know that's probably also -- All of this I think that they're all.
-- -- close links.
Won't go to one of the women involved in this insisting the was enrolled in an anti Castro organization funded by the US.
So walking is the argument -- you will make next week next Tuesday in -- to the judge.
-- partnered we wanna be applying.
Say the cold -- Following the issue is the way is it that that we join -- you would be.
That the Swedish authority is.
On this forum.
Will -- -- point but I have to be decided.
That will in -- lay out for us roughly how long this will take.
I'm about going to be considered too -- food here in which -- likely to be in the media.
My guess is sometime in January you'll by the -- -- fabric and how -- you actually fight the extradition when he comes hopeful Darren law points will you be making call.
Well this it's too early to say it out at this point we haven't yet been served with -- -- about it that we needed -- -- to make -- Decision.
And until we get those papers.
We -- obviously hasn't voted in being able -- habitat for the extradition says album all the situation here -- as a result about.
On the capitol complex question seemed like the papers but that can't be all into the tank of his two oldest them -- Unfortunately I haven't turned out not a 100% up at my Swedish council -- is that when they gave Willie united.
So I mocked -- in the meantime.
Julian is behind bars in London as they say but more cables -- coming out.
Presumably Wiki leaks can operate perfectly well without him at the Helm is that.
I mean I think you left the -- Whitney who sort of more than day -- these -- if the editor in chief.
The united Wall Street Journal he helped along Jerome all the day or otherwise in despises.
They're the devil comes out every day.
You know other people -- into cries followed them the card will make you look doors lead in the -- It is that we he -- -- find that all of the other people are coming out.
At all I'm producing that the material on the table looking we'd -- More traditional media problem.
I'm -- that the cables we will continue to come out.
Irrespective of -- that you know -- is in place.
In -- -- instead you know he's more credit than perhaps these EU audience Friday -- Baltic.
Essentially you know that that.
Saying it had more credit for the publication of these cables on.
His future and many -- that had more attention.
About is due to.
As a consequence -- I think people will realize they've -- the next few weeks.
It gave him stating -- today that actually.
He's not essential to the functioning all of this organization and it will continue.
Did not in the meantime as well a lot of the organizations.
That if you like have been.
Going off to Wiki leaks the Swedish prosecutor.
Mom be the Swiss -- authorities who froze funding.
Full Wiki leaks and mosque to god which just -- -- Doing any transactions -- -- -- -- are now being attacked by a how.
-- because it appears do you and Julian -- so orange so poll those -- web attacks by hackers.
Well I'm a lawyer of course would decry and the thing that breaks the -- But.
And until -- you know going to do adopt.
They'd they'd be -- the question I think here is really different one.
They don't seem that.
-- Compensated like Moscow column on these which -- both.
-- until my contract -- -- -- I have done so for more role as opposed to legal reasons a little moment that he's going to do any -- that has been broken in the United Kingdom made.
The result of I don't want -- to look out although organizations.
Often called it is none of these -- and what looks -- from -- So that -- cup -- and a number of racist organizations which require you to.
Got to comply on the mall to come full weight.
Speak out about -- race and ethnicity him affirm that you -- -- from any ethnic minority.
And in this circumstances.
Yeah I want -- -- all weather.
You know ape not a column these guys shouldn't actually be declining the services of -- console gradation if they're declining -- unique.
Mark I know you're busy -- obviously I'm gonna let you go one more question do you believe the Julian a Sony will eventually face.
As opposed to a Swedish old British coal.
I think that the American -- big -- On having him.
To -- in an American called.
Anybody -- Something that we all go and see.
Let me try down the right -- revolves.
They'll be successful law is that is an -- -- I think nobody -- I'm more complex question -- I wanted out of the public importance so these cables and everything -- let's say he is a man who believes that what he's getting enjoyed.
He -- -- almost vocal fatigue about that in them.
Will the how this thing plays out -- the maximum two weeks the annual fight with him.
Well I'm deployed on retained I'm if you like but certainly have to they've got about that we don't control in this country called the tavern principal.
-- is take the case.
All that -- fighter probably.
And I think that's a very notable principal amount completely copilot do you believe annual client I'm not getting -- -- -- You know I believe that that -- -- -- you know I believe -- has a right to do what he did not all week.
Looked at least Supreme Court says the United States some -- parties about look to the Pentagon papers case -- State secrets were revealed in the public interest.
That was -- to be protected by the First Amendment.
I believe that the speech that.
We -- exercise is also protected by the First Amendment and many other constitutional protections.
Around the world.
Or I'm not thank you so much a given us so much time this morning mark Stephens.
One of the lawyers for Julian -- -- have -- -- Wiki -- thanks very much rob will like keep in touch with the --
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