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-- he knew that these phone -- conversations would be coming out during this corruption trial.
And he said that they would exonerate happened in the end former on -- governor Rod Blagojevich says that President Obama was aware.
Of a deal to sell his senate seats what you're -- here's the governor talking to his then chief of staff John Harris -- sell it.
You know -- -- -- Morton and the anyway I'm.
Very -- want gallery here.
Everybody I think if you land data gonna put pressure that it hurt the people that that that the lame duck session.
It will -- quite like -- make up my request.
Blob what do you want to get away -- -- -- politics.
-- -- But we gotta run -- clock a little that I got a picture I don't think the power of the apartment away the right end cards that you didn't like.
He -- it going.
Okay -- work but -- every.
-- -- -- -- The governor hopes to accomplish.
With this senate -- remember he was the one who could appoint a senator to the seat that was vacated.
By then senator -- to be president Barack Obama and -- here -- John Harris he backed up that whole conversation during testimony this week.
Bob Massi joins me as Fox News legal analyst.
I'm not a game and it is fascinating we know that -- Valerie Jarrett it was a very close associate at a close and Eisner at.
To President Obama that shortly after these conversations were made she withdrew her name -- from consideration for that senate -- for people that there -- it up with a very you know close.
Advisory position to the president in Washington.
What seeing here and that could be potentially legally -- problematic if anything for the White House.
That -- we know as lawyers that most of what's being safe so force here say evidence if there are some direct evidence -- that comes forward.
By other witnesses their gonna be called and I'm assuming the government is going to have some people that are get out of the hearsay statement we're going to be some direct evidence.
Then that that surely clouds -- but -- member.
That doesn't necessarily exonerate blog as a matter of fact can you imagine.
As his lawyer sitting there listening to that knowing that a defendant doesn't have to testify but there you are hearing and that's devastating no matter what.
Yet I wanna -- a piece of this is a little bit lengthy ballot everybody -- with -- because journalists into the specific language -- -- let's let us.
We didn't get that you know what what but -- look at them through the get that they elect.
-- -- -- -- -- Like he does other reality it.
Want that we know that.
I don't really cold out bet I would do it if I got that.
But I keynote I can get it and it is -- legitimate.
The audience already at it right out.
We don't want there.
And look I don't know that made it related typically want their -- -- -- -- -- -- Without knowing it that are being -- -- -- I need to act.
Wow I mean I don't much more -- -- that bobcat clearly nervous which is saying you know.
The president's very -- to Valerie Jarrett he wanted at this senate seat she wants it up and we're gonna make it perfectly clear that if if you gonna get it I'm gonna get something in return an ambassadorship.
There's a quid pro quo right there and that's the essence of the case that is the direct evidence by the way.
The other thing you haven't said it's not direct evidence about a -- they're trying to I don't care which the president whoever -- market that is not enough to overcome that.
You have this jury sitting there and it Chicago politics at its best you have a jury -- listening to this person basically saying -- We know what he wants this is what I want it that is the essence.
Basically buying your position.
That's corruption and that's why and -- and he's in it hall aboard defendant mark but this guy has done nothing to endear himself in all the things and today was indicted on this case.
Serena yeah the other -- -- it eight in their candidate they're subpoena Rahm Emanuel and Valerie Jarrett I don't they know about that governor Blagojevich has said please do that because when you talk to -- you're gonna see that there was no.
You know no deal done here is there anything illegal about Rod Blagojevich asking for this -- -- that's ultimately this is not what happened.
Nothing I haven't.
There there well the question is going to be.
Why did he ask for.
If he's asking for in the quid pro quo is we put -- and this is what I want if you if -- if you don't give me that I'm not gonna pointer.
That's where you get into the crux of these kinds of corruption cases.
Because it should be that the appointments made -- no strings attached and and no matter what went Valerie Jarrett testifies -- Ryan -- You -- know for sure they are not in any when he gonna gonna come clean.
And implode their their guys it's just not going to happen and as a result of that no matter what happens for direct evidence to be this phone conversation.
That is very very good about now if the defense could show.
And blow the smoke that all this -- sort everybody was involved as a -- the only guy sitting there why is there the empty chair where the other people involved.
Different story may be but bottom line is that's very compelling evidence Martha.
Hi it's fascinating.
We're gonna see -- this is the White House says they had no you know part of any.
Dealer any situation -- and where nothing is to be in a very much on Blagojevich at this point whether or not they're not offering something.
For exchange good to talk to you Bob thank you Mary Martha good to see you thank you Bob Massey in -- yes so -- --
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