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Ever since he was elected to the senate in November Marco Rubio has been talked about as one of the new shining lights of the GOP.
And Tea Party favorite people are already asking whether he might run for president or vice president next year.
Joining us now from his home state of Florida is senator will be -- for his first Sunday show interview since the election of senator welcome back to FOX News Sunday.
Thank you proud -- me back.
Senator you made some news this week -- an article.
In the Wall Street Journal in which used said that flatly that you won't vote to raise the debt limit allows the following conditions are -- fundamental tax reform and overhaul of our regulatory structure.
A -- to discretionary spending.
A balanced budget amendment.
And entitlement -- -- question are you saying.
That congress house to pass all of that in less than it than the nukes the next two bonds are you're gonna let the country go on to default.
-- First of all of the people who are against my position on this argue that if we do not extend the debt limit that it will lead to a catastrophic default and my answer to that is they've all we do was -- -- government debt limit.
It will be even worse and so I what I have said is that Delaware that I will vote on this -- -- thing is that -- the last time we do it plus.
A series of meaningful reforms that put us on a path.
Towards fiscal sanity.
You just had -- -- on a moment ago he outlined a lot of those things that I just spoke about a mile better earlier in the week.
Are gonna be part of his budget now we haven't seen the details yet but those -- that's the kind of leadership we're looking for.
If all we do is -- -- -- and 34 weeks -- a couple months and extended debt limit again and do nothing else.
The world's gonna look at us and say America and its political leadership is not serious about dealing with this incredible issue and the fact that -- government continues to spend money it doesn't happen.
But that senator aren't you.
Pulling the same stunt if you well that Barack Obama did what he was a senator in 2006.
When he voted against increasing the debt limit but he knew that a lot of other senators would do the right thing so he could make -- political gesture but they would keep the country out of default.
Well first of all I wanna thank you for reminding the viewers of Barack Obama when he was a senator voted against extending the debt limit because back then he called the leadership failure.
Now apparently he thinks is the mature thing to do.
But I would go on and say that the difference between not vote and what he did what I'm doing as I am saying here's what we should do instead.
I'm offering a clear alternative.
Now if someone has a better idea about how we can make and send a more positive message to the world that America serious about dealing with is that issue -- let's hear their idea.
But the fact is that as -- sit here with you today.
My colleagues on the democratic side of the aisle in the senate.
Haven't even proposed -- budget for last year much -- one for this year or plan to deal with these things instead of just sitting back.
And waiting to see how they can use this issue to win election -- that senator I guess the question I'm asking is -- easy.
To say I'm gonna vote against increasing the -- and it when you know that added a majority of the other senators are gonna do it.
If you were the deciding vote would you still vote to put the country in default if you don't get all your conditions now.
Now I don't want ever wanna vote to put this country in default and that's exactly what we're doing it always do is extend the debt limit and do not start dealing with a fundamental fact.
But the American government spends money it doesn't have that it -- four billion dollars a -- That almost 41 cents out of every dollar it spends -- money we're borrowing half of that from overseas and most of that from China anyone who votes to continue to do that is voting to default.
Eventually sooner rather than later quite frankly what one last question in this regard Federal Reserve Chairman.
Ben Bernanke has talked about the possibility of the country going into default he says -- failure to pay interest on the debt.
Would create an enormous crisis.
In the financial market market experts say it would make it more expensive for the US to borrow.
It would raise interest rates for home mortgages and consumer loans house speaker John Boehner says it would send our economy into a tailspin.
So let me ask my question again if you were the deciding vote if you -- the 51 vote.
Are you saying that if your conditions aren't met you would vote.
To put the country and -- -- I've never wanna see our country in default is exactly where these guys are taking us because they refused to make reforms but is it -- you're not simply extend the debt limit what I'm not voting for simply raising the debt limit unless is that as I outlined in my op -- it's the last time we do it and it's couple -- meaningful reforms.
That put us on a path.
Towards fiscal sanity otherwise all you're doing is guaranteeing default so these guys that are going around saying let's -- simply raise the debt limit will be over these issues later.
-- -- have to be dealt -- now every year that goes by it becomes harder and harder to deal with these issues.
And quite frankly we get closer and closer to the day when those horrible things of Bernanke's talking about are going to happen.
OPEC before the debt -- you've got another Richard that -- got to deal with this week and that is about funding.
The government before the deadline runs out on Friday at at midnight and there's growing support and we talked about -- just with Paul Ryan.
Within the GOP since you're talking only only about a couple of billion dollars here.
And for -- in Washington is doctor would you say a couple of only a couple of billion dollars -- -- but there's growing support for the idea look.
Make the deal declare victory you're talking about billions here its focus on the debt limit focus on the Ryan budget we're talking about trillions of dollars.
Well I would say three things.
The first this is a good opportunity to remind ourselves of why were still debating the 2011 budget.
A third of the way into 2011 calendar year and that's because the Democrats when they controlled the house the senate and White House did not offer -- or pass a budget.
Back our senate Democrat colleagues still have not.
They offered one short term spending deal and and it got less votes than the house bill that passed originally -- those so -- house resolution number one.
That being said I would say that clearly it's important -- of the -- I wanna vote for the one house has already passed a -- voted for that it actually got more votes with the Democrats have proposed.
But ultimately what how we spend money over the next six months is important.
But how we spend money over the next sixty years is even more important that is a fundamental debate and we've got to get to it but what we do on the rest of this year's budget.
Will be a strong indicator of how willing and how serious we are about dealing with our debt problem.
And -- that I wanna -- turn to another subject Yule.
Sent a letter to the Senate Leadership this week in which you called for a resolution that would specifically.
Put congress on record authorizing the use of force in Libya and also explicitly.
Make it clear that the goal of this mission is regime change so the question naturally flows.
Are you -- do you want to put US ground troops.
On the ground in Libya.
Well first of all let's talk about why Moammar -- Moscow -- the other two alternatives are simply unacceptable.
The first alternative and -- one that I fear perhaps for headed towards.
It's a long stalemate civil war that all out we'll do is create conditions and Libya that are there are conducive for al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups to come -- and and really take advantage of it.
The other is the Qaddafi actually defeat the rebels and then you're talking about -- emboldened and angry destabilizing force in the region that will impact everything from oil prices to the US is interest and every other country in that area.
That being said as parts tactics are concerned I don't think you're going to a military engagement announcing what you will not do.
I think that the United States has plenty of capabilities both covert and -- to help along this process of getting rid of Moammar Qaddafi look the stated goal of this engagement.
Is to protect civilians and prevent genocide as long as -- is in power.
You can't protect civilians or prevent genocide let me ask you some specific questions and -- and and we're beginning to run out of -- -- -- -- for a brief answers should we send in US conference.
Well ultimately -- the people on the ground -- the -- -- rebels they don't want that and I don't think that's the ideal scenario but I don't think -- in our military engagement by making bold public announcements about what you will or won't do quite -- fact of the matter is that are the people working with -- -- don't want that.
Question should we arm the Libyan -- I think the president was right not to take that off the table I think we need to learn more about who they are and how they're working and -- when you talk about Colombian rebels well that's a lot of different people need to learn more about who they are whether it would make a difference but the president was right not to take that off the table.
Senator you criticized.
President Obama for what you call phony multilateralism.
And say that the US should lead.
But but does that mean that we shouldn't share command and cost.
With NATO does that mean that we should spearhead a third US war.
Against an Arab country or in an Arab country.
First of our Chris we -- -- -- with all due respect to our French and British allies who are so a lot of courage and bravery of foresight in this endeavor without the United States NATO doesn't function and can't work absolutely -- -- work alongside them were pleased that they've actually taken the position they've taken in this regard.
But ultimately the United States has capabilities that France and Britain doesn't do not have particularly militarily.
And without those capabilities engaged in this endeavor it will be impossible to accomplish the goal of this mission.
Which is to prevent genocide in the massacre of civilians because as long as -- -- power.
That's what we're facing.
But but I guess the question I have is.
Is in a sense is that smart.
To try to fold into NATO and to fold into the French taking the lead and friends -- we're gonna pull out our combat aircraft this week.
Is not a good thing not a bad thing.
I think it's a good thing we have allies in this endeavor we should always try to have allies in this endeavor we have -- in Afghanistan we had him in Iraq we certainly -- him in the first gulf war back in the early -- that's always the ideal scenario but we have to recognize.
That we have unique capabilities Secretary Clinton and others have said that our allies do not have and so American leadership is essential to missions like this being successful.
Finally a little politics what do you make of all this talk and a house that a lot.
About you possibly being on the on the national ticket either for president or vice president let me ask you frankly.
Do you think you're ready do you think that you know enough to be either the president or vice president of the United States.
While it's a two things number one I'm not gonna be the president or vice president of the United States -- 2012.
Not -- -- -- -- anyway it's elementary but let me just like people are already -- well not when he twelve because he actually it wouldn't have sworn into the 2013 so -- I'm about 23 -- Well parts when he thirteen okay I'm not -- -- be the candid.
For president or vice president as far as whether we're prepared that's why we have elections in this country are I have a lot of confidence and faith and our republic.
Our voters almost always get it right and for more often than not quite frankly.
And and through that election process is where we come to learn whether someone is prepared whether someone has to answer that question.
I do think the most important thing we need in leadership and our country not just in the presidency.
But in the United States senate are people have a clear vision of what the role of government should be in our lives and -- the -- of America should be in the world and in my mind it's pretty straightforward.
Government should allow people to go -- and do the things Americans have always done create jobs and prosperity.
And America's role in the world the world is a safer and better place when America's strongest country in the world.
Senator rubio we're gonna have to leave it there we want to thank you so much for coming in and joining us today it's always a pleasure to talk with -- -- Pleasure thank you.
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