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-- talk October 2 2006.
A shocking mass murder took place at an Amish school a lone gunman.
Embittered by the death of his infant daughter nine years before murdered five girls.
Five others were seriously wounded in lots -- amazing thing happened shortly after.
-- -- hours within hours the Amish community forum gave the gunman.
It was an act of grace that stunned the rest of us but -- you know my next guest.
Will explain why such forgiveness and patients happen David Weaver's searcher has written a book the Amish way patient -- in a perilous world welcome.
Welcome David thank you so easy this is amazing.
What is it about -- what is about the Amish.
That we just don't -- when it comes to situations like this.
Well there are things people miss about Amish life is that it's really long history of forgiveness.
-- The -- Trace back their roots of the reformation -- that many of their ancestors who persecuted.
Many stories about their ancestors.
About stuff -- those -- -- persecuting them the -- continue to read those stories they continued focus on versus in the new testament in particular about the importance of forgiveness.
And they practiced forgiveness in their daily lives and so on something like.
What happened on October 2 2006 happens.
They were ready to forget.
We we we we have a picture of the horse and buggy and you know and the overalls and these -- the images of the Amish that we really kind of -- we always -- the outward.
-- trends of what the -- mean what is it inside of them that really drives.
-- -- -- the Amish are very committed Christians.
They are part of long Christian tradition called the end Baptist tradition.
Then has focused on the teachings of Jesus in the teachings of new -- the new testament.
And so what we try to unpack and -- new book the Amish way.
Tries to get any need some of the images that we know about the they're prayer life there worship life.
They're committed to one another in the context of their community.
The things that we think are more fundamental -- Amish life.
Some of the more picturesque things that obviously are very.
Interesting to look at and gather a lot of attention but it's -- the spiritual life behind the -- she drives them.
You know wouldn't this story broke from a few years ago.
Of course in a Fox News carried it and just.
That -- the stunning shock of this story that this man with no.
Would go into an Amish school tell the boys.
To get out.
And then proceeded to tie up the girls -- ten girls between -- of them I think what.
Six and 636.
And thirteen -- them all.
He killed five out of five were seriously wounded he kills himself there is no justice here.
You know we -- all frustrated because a gunman has killed himself there is no -- there's no nothing there's no like.
Questions that could be out of why this happened and yet the Amish.
Come -- and they forgive me.
How you -- go in and try to figure out what was happening in this community that we just can't quite get.
-- that's the thing that took a stand there now my fellow authors and I when we Rhode on the streets a few years ago we we talk among ourselves we weren't surprised by the -- response because we knew enough about the -- that we -- that would be their response.
But obviously -- raise some questions in our minds and so when we went in the Amish community we want to ask them questions why is it that.
Motivates you to you for gifts and without fail Amish people would cite the lord's prayer life in the lord's prayer forgive us our deaths.
As we forgive our debtors.
They're praying that prayer to god they believe that they need to forgive others so that god can forgive them when it comes to justice I think the Amish are like the rest of us -- They realize there injustices in the world they're just more ready to let god take care -- that in the end than most of the rest of the star.
Or a lot of people who look at -- -- from the outside in Indian and look at the kind of crime that was committed we can't we can see such -- a large degree of difference between the airlines in his life.
You know that it's hard to say that Amish had anything to forgive.
But that's all part of their there they're afraid isn't -- they see them themselves not as anything more perfect than anybody else is that if that's the way it works.
That's exactly right I -- obviously themselves has fallen people in need of God's grace and also in need of one another forgiveness and grace and so there -- a lot of assets Obama's life that encourage Amish people.
To be forgiving -- one another it starts in the ways that parents raise their children but it also extends to things like getting prepared for communion the lord's supper the bread and the wine.
The -- don't you show up to do that in the weeks in advance begin to hear about forgiveness and reconciliation.
With the idea that if they can forgive and reconcile with one another -- more fit to take this.
Communion together so there's many things -- -- life that showed that day.
Believing human fallen this -- even the importance is seeking to forgive and they practice it on a daily and weekly basis.
How are you affected by doing this book I mean did you try to -- your own life.
Yeah I think one of the things that in our new book the Amish way 01 of the things that has reminded.
-- -- impress us as we looked Obama's life is just how -- daily practices.
I'm just ordinary practices when nobody is watching people spiritual -- -- really -- a difference over the long run.
And so things light praying the lord's prayer the -- Prado lord's prayer at breakfast lunch dinner they often -- it.
Driving down the road in the buggy.
They trail when they gather together for churches that's at least one thing that's impressed me -- small.
Every day practices in this case -- the lord's prayer.
Is very important even when nobody is watching when you think it's not making a big difference in your life.
It's a small daily practices the issue ready to face difficulties in the world.
And -- of the things that you talk about in the book that was incredible on the patients they have which of course is counter to.
A technology driven culture like ours but their patients you say actually.
Brings them closer to god how how is that.
-- Well I think.
One way to think about that is that many of us when we see a problem or we see a concern if it's even something like I can't get my work done -- -- -- I wanna get it done.
We quickly look for a solution sheet that particular problem that that we can come up -- The -- are more content to live their lives.
Traditionally asked people have done it before them.
They wait for god to me.
Changes so they're willing to wait patiently for.
-- laying -- less likely to run to the doctor right away.
There's just a lot of things about Amish life that most encouraged him to be patient and even -- to be patient and -- I think it's the case that Amish people because of the culture -- Do develop more patience than the rest of us.
-- that we find it so hard.
To do with the Amish man in terms of forgiveness why is it that -- can't -- and I mean.
The average price -- I think that.
Yeah I I I think it's fair to say that.
Almost everyone including Amish people when they're wrong to they.
Are angry and they really want to seek revenge I think the Amish are part of -- community.
Where the idea of seeking revenge is is not something that is encouraging community.
And they're also the community that really has to develop the habit and encourages people to practice a habit of forgiveness so again.
That's sergeant Gary Small ways in childhood.
But those are the messages that they are hearing they're hearing and a whole they're -- in the church.
And they're not tuning into the larger media nearly as much.
Where sometimes they the rest of us are seeing stories that are encouraging us that you know vengeance is the most satisfying -- they don't see those sort of media offerings rather they hear the message from the new testament about the importance -- forgiveness.
-- with thank you very much.
David David Weaver is -- for the book is called the Amish way patients face in a perilous world thank you so much for coming on talking about this.
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